Re: Souper vs. "doing it the old-fashioned way"

A.R. & F.L. Scott-Thoennes (sthoenna@peak.org)
Wed, 04 Dec 1996 18:16:47 -0800

In article <qaMpyUNOfufV092yn@wwa.com>, debraw@wwa.com (Debra Walker) wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Dec 96 23:11:43 -0400,
>in article<199612030902.EAA25637@psyc.queensu.ca>,
>"Peter Donald" <neurolab@psyc.queensu.ca> wrote:
>
>>>I noticed this, too. However, I never tried uploading my Souper95
>>>.newsrc file to my shell account to run the trn/uqwk routine because I
>>>was not sure if the article numbers in the PC .newsrc matched the ones
>>>in the .newsrc file of my shell account.
>>
>> They should - the article numbers refer to the numbers on the
>>server. (If they *don't* match something's probably broken with your
>>ISP's news server).
>
>Wow... I never knew this before now. I suppose that one can learn
>something new every day. This must be an undocumented feature of
>Souper, since, AFAIK, there is no mention of it in the doc file.
>
>> Works like a charm. I generally read news online from my PC
>>using slrn; when I visit my parents (who have a computer, a modem, and
>>an Internet account) I upload my .newsrc to my shell account, telnet
>>in, and read my news using my shell account; when I visit my in-laws
>>(who have neither a computer, nor a modem) I use souper to fetch my
>>news and read it when I return from vacation using Yarn. (If anybody
>
>So, then, the .newsrc file that one uses for Souper is portable, and
>compatible with the one in the home directory, right? Cool...:) Now
>that I know this, I can see ways to synchronize the two processes, one
>for times when I use Souper, and the other for the occasions when I run
>my SOUP scripts or OLMenu in the shell.
>
>Thanks a lot for posting this information. You seem to have answered
>my questions, as well as Dirk's. This is (yet) another reason to like
>Souper.

Yarn's newsrc (which is NOT compatible with a shell account .newsrc) has
CR-LF terminated lines. I don't know if this is also true of Soupers.
If it is, they should be changed to just LFs to use them on the shell
account, since at least some programs will have problems with the CRs.

Here's a crazy idea:
You could initiate a PPP connection, transfer your Souper newsrc to your
shell account via http or ftp, run trnkill via telnet, transfer .newsrc
back to your PC, and then run souper to collect news. :)