On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:16:44 +1200, firstname.lastname@example.org (Frank G. Pitt) wrote:
>In article <ikyc10E6AxbR092yn@momeraths.org>,
>MarchHare@momeraths.org (Sysop John) wrote:
>>Yes, I've looked at some. A _couple_ have come close. However, I'm
>>still using Yarn. If it were easier to have it put files exactly where
>>I want to and still be avaible for more than one user, and if the
>>news database weren't so easily corrupted, I probably would never look
>>at another one. Mind you, these are pretty minor bugs.
>Just an addenda here, the major reason I'm thinking of writing my own
>(GUI?) version of Yarn is because it's not truly multi-user capable.
Multiuser really isn't a function of the GUI. But, there should be a
better way to place files where you want, say:
So, I think we can agree it needs to overcome some things to be really
>Yes, you can have multiple users, but it's not multi-user aware at
>runtime. If you have two users, or even two copies running off the same
>user, you get outgoing mail/news loss, and corruption to various parts
>of the system.
>What I often want to be able to do is, while editing, go and look at
>another article or email. That's what a GUI gets you.
OK, I'll give you one point for the GUI, then :)
>A more annoying flaw (IMO) is that it dosen't handle local mail
>locally, you have to send local mail up to your SMTP host and back
>again to get it delivered.
It may be annoying, but that's a little beyond a mail reader function.
I suppose you could use sendmail to actually deliver mail somehow. I
don't like sendmail, don't want to learn it.
>The non-multi-user capability is a fundamental flaw caused by lack of
>of proper (if any) semaphoring on common files.
>My current intentions are to write a sort of NNTP/POP3/SMTP capable server
>that merely uses the YARN database format for storage, that way, only
>the one process will ever have access to the shared files, and access
>speed will be far faster as he indexes only need to be read on server
>start-up. People will then be able to use whatever front end they like.
>(though obviously, a YARN like text mode front end would probably
> be preferable)
Sounds like a worthwhile challenge.
// Here the Queen put on her spectacles, and began staring at the
// Hatter, who turned pale and fidgeted.
// `Give your evidence,' said the King; `and don't be nervous, or
// I'll have you executed on the spot.' --Lewis Carroll
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