Where can I get these? The link to WHY on the yarn page is broken.
> I assume you have some way, in wndows, of separating the digest into
> separate messages.
No, I cannot stand digests and do not use them.
>Almost every news reader has some kind of nickname
> or alias file (e.g., Eudora). Simply add (or replace) the To:
address
> with the digest address, which you store, once, in the nicknames
list.
No, you misunderstand the problem. It's not difficult to get the
mailing list address into the address field. The problem is getting
the senders address there. It's not a satisfactory solution to add
the sender to the address book -- this may be a one-time reply and you
may have no reason to have that address in your address book.
> Wonder if you ever tried News Express -- an older freeware reader.
> It certainly does not integrate news/mail entirely. It can send mail
> but not receive it. But it is a lot nicer than a lot of the modern
> readers, in my subjective opinion.
No, I've not tried this reader, but I can't see that it would gain me
anything. I can get more from Outlook Express or some similar
mail/news client.
> This feature is useless, unless you can separate the digest into
> separate messages. Without this, your digests simply go into a
> newsgroup instead of a mail folder.
Well, duh...you can separate the messages by not using digests.
That's what I do.
So obviously, the feature is very useful to me.
> You certainly can use the windows clipboard. There is a freeware
> product called dosbar that adds a windows button bar to the dos box
> window, along with mouse cut and paste to/from the windows
clipboard.
I don't want any button bars or mouse cut and paste. I want to be
able to use the keyboard shortcuts for cut, copy and paste. I want to
be able to highlight the item that I want to cut or copy with the
standard Windows keyboard commands and use the keyboard to perform
these functions.
> The problem with cut/paste in yarn is moving freely between folders,
> inbox, and the newsbase so you can grab text you want to paste.
Readmail
> solves this by displaying folders, newsgroups etc. within different
> windows inside DOS(!) -- and you can move freely between the
windows.
You missed my point. I am trying to avoid using DOS. If I wanted to
use DOS, I could use yarn in console mode. Go back and reread my
original message more carefully where I explain why I want it this
way.
> Why you want to use a windows editor (like notepad?) escapes me,
since
> the ones that come with windows are so inferior to other freeware
> editors. However, there are good editors that work in both windows
> and dos,
Well, I named notepad mainly as an example, thinking that most people
would be aware of that editor. Any preferred editor could be used
such as notespad or even Word.
>The only thing a windows editor offers that is unique is resizable
windows.
That's the only thing you can think of, huh? Well, most Windows
editors support the standard Windows editting commands that I've
mentioned previously in this message. That's mainly what I'm looking
for. I could care less about movable or resizable windows.
> You've got me here. If you use any offline news/mail reader, you
> must use a separate program to transport files, by definition.
> But you dont have to use SOUP packets. Yarn, and readmail will read
> textfiles in the formats output by POP/SMPT.
It's not the format that's the issue here. One of the most
significant conveniences of Windows mail clients is their ability to
poll periodically for mail and send it with the press of a single key
combination. There's no need to run separate import or transmit
programs. In fact, it's this feature above all others, that has
motivated me to switch from yarn to my current email client.
Frankly, I think we're arguing a moot point here. It's become clear
to me that there's very little hope that yarn will be updated, ported
or changed in any way in the near or distant future. I suspect I'd
have a better chance of convincing one of the current mail/news client
developers to implement the desired features. Practically speaking, I
doubt that I'll ever see them implemented in any single product.
Thanks, however, for your feedback.
"War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left."
Regards
Jeff <counselor@geocities.com> - ICQ UIN: 736807
Computer and Internet Accessibility Consultant
Blind Man's Bluff: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/8545/