> On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 03:01:14PM -0500, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, rex wrote:
> > > It's been a while since I looked at the format, but, IIRC, these files
> > > are ASCII files with a 32 bit length indicator between each post. It
> > > should be easy (albeit tedious) to convert them to *nix mail format.
> > Correct (32 bit message between posts). Someone else reminded the list
> > that Yarnutils has tools that will do some of this automatically.
> Yarn -> SOUP, but the problem of converting SOUP -> Unix mail hasn't
> been addressed here yet, right?
Didn't someone mention Multimail from a site on clark.net?
> > I'm sure an editor can, but sometimes, I just start scanning the subject
> > lines of a clipping file.
> I don't understand. If you find what you want, aren't you going to have to
> use an editor to extract it? It seems that using an editor directly
> would save a step.
I'm using BMGREP and LIST which aren't editors. Since messages usually
follow threads, though maybe not in the clipping file, using the subject
to put the thread together can be useful.
> > Right now I do email via pine from a telnet session to my ISP. That
> > probably won't change, though I will have to find a Linux telnet that
> > autostarts Zmodem, a GUI ftp tool would be handy as well (particularly
> > if I can't find an autostarting Zmodem telnet client - like NetTerm
> > for Windows). A nice GUI type ftp client for windows is CuteFTP.
> I'm confused. You mean you're telneting from Windows and running Pine
> on your machine?
I'm running pine on my ISP's machine, I have a shell account there, I
know shell accounts are getting to be rare and I cherish mine! I have
a Linux machine, but for the past year or two, it's sat behind me, not
hooked up to anything. I'm going to reinstall Linux anyway, if only to
experiment with other distributions (it is RedHat 5.something with an
unknown root password).
> Under Linux, the normal procedure is to use sendmail (or one of the
> other mail handlers). I use sendmail, fetchmail
> (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/), and procmail (incoming
> filter) to handle mail. Fetchmail can run as a daemon, automatically
> fetching mail at intervals, or it can be run manually from the
> command line.
see above
> I prefer not to use GUI programs (I detest mice), so I often use
> Midnight Commander to ftp. Midnight Commander (mc) is a free clone of
> Norton Commander for *nix with some additional features, including ftp.
> It allows navigating the ftp site just as if it were a local disk.
> It's especially handy for folks who are familiar with Norton Commander.
I use GUI where it makes sense, avoid it where doesn't (using a GUI
in an editor is usually silly, yes it can be done, but it usually
isn't a requirement other than for appearances). I didn't realize mc had
ftp capabilities, thank you.
> BTW, I beieve CuteFTP uses Radiate's spyware which gathers statistics
> on program usage (even when you're offline) and uploads them silently
> to Radiate the next time you're online. Steve Gibson has a good
> writeup on Radiate and a program (OptOut) that will remove the spyware
> (which uninstalling CuteFTP will not do).
> http://www.grc.com
I saw the mention of that on another forum, thank you for reminding me.
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