
From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:36:25 EDT 2008 Article: 1911465 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatchNewsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!! Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:29:33 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 119 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 5980 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.jewish:1940103 alt.revisionism:1911465 soc.culture.palestine:702558 Mcvay and his one fag so-called business Nizkor, [where only fag McVay gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada! Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his money laundering! Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities. With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover, including from those donors who supported all the criminality!! No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam! Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and money being laundered: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1 Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1 Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122 Message-ID: Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT Two Companion pieces to the above: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1 (Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6) Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822 Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com> Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT ------------------------------AND------------------------------- http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!) Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1 Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227 Message-ID: Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam V2.0 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.) If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:42:46 EDT 2008 Article: 125528 of can.taxes Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,tor.general,can.taxes Subject: McVay TAX FRAUD Causes B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! - Latest in News Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:34:38 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 682 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 29911 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.canada:598139 tor.general:345572 can.taxes:125528 Ken McVay and his massive tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING TAX FRAUD involving the collusion of senior managers at B'nai Brith, is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, the reliable jew newspaper, week after week, and is now a major cause of B'Nai Brith Canada Breaking Up!! No wonder CRA & IRS are also so very interested! McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details ! Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS, BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!! It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting up a new jew charity group. Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" "Everything was manipulated." We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised! Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal. On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the mismanagement and financial irregularities. Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court, so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!! McVay TAX FRAUD Causing B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations! Full text of article follows at bottom of comments. The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn wrote: Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, [pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!! Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA: http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870 Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other Tax Fraud A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed, international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income tax returns. BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN SOPHISTICATED TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY. Canadian Jewish News Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. ... Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26 Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl =us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT GO UNPUNISHED. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. >Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, >[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major >scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. >Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. >Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!! So stupid why didn't you show the url? The entire original article is below, cretin. >No wonder honest jews are incenced! >It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, >are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting >up a new jew charity group. >Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide >audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members >are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. >For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS >RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Ken McVay uber alles. >Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core >group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer “BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national administrative board. The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. “Everything was manipulated,” he said. “We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.” Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a “breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s been talk about it,” he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still does good work,” he said. What he is after is reform. “I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to get some accountability and transparency.” Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. “We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization,” he said. Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been debunked.” “This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community,” he said. Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.” Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small.” He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way they remembered. “My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community,” he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a travesty of justice.” He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization. “I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up… The lodges will be gone.” http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of the Jewish faith is backing him. >Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped >getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" >"Everything was manipulated." >We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. >How is that money used? >Where does it go? >We don't know." >Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in >ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for >fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder >executives of BB are very concerned. >For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website >for JEW-WATCH: >http://www.jewwatch.com >Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION >WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - >no wonder people around the world are really disliking the >Christkiller ZHIDS!! The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe. > >Or, other useful websites include: >ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org Does he still clean the toilets of Turks? >IHR - www.ihr.org >Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well. >OSTARA - www.ostara.org >PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html >Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com >AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage >THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, > Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History > Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com >Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg >American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com >Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com >Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com >They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From: Caduceus@eris.io.com Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Canadian Jewish News Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer "BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national administrative board. The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a "breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's been talk about it," he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still does good work," he said. What he is after is reform. "I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to get some accountability and transparency." Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. "We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization," he said. Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been debunked." "This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community," he said. Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed." Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small." He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way they remembered. "My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community," he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a travesty of justice." He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization. "I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up. The lodges will be gone." http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86 +%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com> Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:42:48 EDT 2008 Article: 125537 of can.taxes Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,tor.general,can.taxes Subject: McVay TAX FRAUD Causes B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! - Latest in News Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:32:16 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 682 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 29912 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.canada:598379 tor.general:345706 can.taxes:125537 Ken McVay with his massive tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING TAX FRAUD involving the collusion of senior managers at B'nai Brith, is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, the reliable jew newspaper, week after week, and is now a major cause of B'Nai Brith Canada Breaking Up!! No wonder CRA & IRS are also so very interested! McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details ! Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS, BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!! It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting up a new jew charity group. Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" "Everything was manipulated." We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised! Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal. On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the mismanagement and financial irregularities. Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court, so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!! McVay TAX FRAUD Causing B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations! Full text of article follows at bottom of comments. The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn wrote: Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, [pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!! Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA: http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870 Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other Tax Fraud A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed, international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income tax returns. BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN SOPHISTICATED TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY. Canadian Jewish News Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. ... Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26 Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl =us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT GO UNPUNISHED. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. >Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, >[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major >scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. >Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. >Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!! So stupid why didn't you show the url? The entire original article is below, cretin. >No wonder honest jews are incenced! >It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, >are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting >up a new jew charity group. >Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide >audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members >are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. >For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS >RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Ken McVay uber alles. >Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core >group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer “BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national administrative board. The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. “Everything was manipulated,” he said. “We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.” Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a “breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s been talk about it,” he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still does good work,” he said. What he is after is reform. “I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to get some accountability and transparency.” Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. “We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization,” he said. Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been debunked.” “This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community,” he said. Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.” Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small.” He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way they remembered. “My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community,” he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a travesty of justice.” He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization. “I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up… The lodges will be gone.” http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of the Jewish faith is backing him. >Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped >getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" >"Everything was manipulated." >We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. >How is that money used? >Where does it go? >We don't know." >Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in >ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for >fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder >executives of BB are very concerned. >For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website >for JEW-WATCH: >http://www.jewwatch.com >Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION >WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - >no wonder people around the world are really disliking the >Christkiller ZHIDS!! The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe. > >Or, other useful websites include: >ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org Does he still clean the toilets of Turks? >IHR - www.ihr.org >Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well. >OSTARA - www.ostara.org >PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html >Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com >AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage >THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, > Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History > Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com >Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg >American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com >Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com >Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com >They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From: Caduceus@eris.io.com Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Canadian Jewish News Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer "BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national administrative board. The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a "breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's been talk about it," he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still does good work," he said. What he is after is reform. "I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to get some accountability and transparency." Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. "We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization," he said. Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been debunked." "This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community," he said. Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed." Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small." He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way they remembered. "My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community," he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a travesty of justice." He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization. "I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up. The lodges will be gone." http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86 +%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com> Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:44:49 EDT 2008 Article: 1940103 of soc.culture.jewish Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!! Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:29:33 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 119 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 5980 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.jewish:1940103 alt.revisionism:1911465 soc.culture.palestine:702558 Mcvay and his one fag so-called business Nizkor, [where only fag McVay gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada! Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his money laundering! Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities. With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover, including from those donors who supported all the criminality!! No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam! Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and money being laundered: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1 Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1 Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122 Message-ID: Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT Two Companion pieces to the above: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1 (Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6) Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822 Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com> Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT ------------------------------AND------------------------------- http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!) Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1 Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227 Message-ID: Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam V2.0 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.) If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From emiltheidiot@marathonsrun.org Thu Jun 5 11:45:36 EDT 2008 Article: 614061 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Emil Tirades Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.palestine Subject: ZYD/Jew Diplomat Was Child Molester!! Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:28:04 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 34 Message-ID: <1l23449nrpqn25a1nh81tcijfprtnhv247@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 2170 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2346202 soc.culture.europe:614061 soc.culture.palestine:702557 ZYD "DIPLOMAT" WAS A POOFTER & CHILD MOLESTER! On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:14:51 -0400, in soc.culture.usa "serwad" wrote: Provided By: The Associated Press Last Modified: 9/1/2006 12:38:12 PM ATLANTA (AP) -- An employee of Israel's consulate in Atlanta was arrested Thursday on charges that he used the Internet to try to lure a minor into having sex. Yosef Sagiv Ofri was indicted by a grand jury in Columbia County yesterday. District Attorney Daniel Craig of Augusta says the 37-year-old Ofri was arrested at about 7:30 a.m. outside his home in DeKalb County, near Atlanta. Craig says authorities also obtained a warrant to search Ofri's home, according to a statement from Craig's office. The indictment says that Ofri used e-mail and online messages to lure a child >from Columbia County-about two hours east of Atlanta-for "illegal acts relating to sodomy, aggravated sodomy, child molestation and aggravated child molestation." Captain Steve Morris of the Columbia County Sheriff's office said Ofri works for the Israeli Consulate in Atlanta. He said officials from the consulate visited with Ofri today at the county's detention center, where he is being held. The Jerusalem Post reports that Ofri is a security officer with the consulate and carries an Israeli diplomatic passport. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:45:37 EDT 2008 Article: 614048 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,alt.politics.europe,soc.culture.europe Subject: ZYDS Plan to Take Over Russia, Again!! Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:21:20 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 155 Message-ID: <76k244l7d48c0plm8u4k7rk5q9kn2n2ogg@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 7872 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.russian:504736 alt.politics.europe:78865 soc.culture.europe:614048 From: "Venceremos" Subject: ONCE AGAIN ZYD PLOTS A RUSSIAN REVOLUTION-Like 1917? RUSSIA BEWARE, BORIS AND MOISHE ARE GOING FOR THE THROAT,again! 'I am plotting a new Russian revolution' London exile ZYD Berezovsky says force necessary to bring down President Putin Ian Cobain and Matthew Taylor and Luke Harding in Moscow Friday April 13, 2007 The Guardian The Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky has told the Guardian he is plotting the violent overthrow of President Putin from his base in Britain after forging close contacts with members of Russia's ruling elite. In comments which appear calculated to enrage the Kremlin, and which will further inflame relations between London and Moscow, the multimillionaire claimed he was already bankrolling people close to the president who are conspiring to mount a palace coup. "We need to use force to change this regime," he said. "It isn't possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be no change without force, pressure." Asked if he was effectively fomenting a revolution, he said: "You are absolutely correct." Although Mr Berezovsky, with an estimated fortune of Ł850m, may have the means to finance such a plot, and although he enjoyed enormous political influence in Russia before being forced into exile, he said he could not provide details to back up his claims because the information was too sensitive. Last night the Kremlin denounced Mr Berezovsky's comments as a criminal offence which it believed should undermine his refugee status in the UK. Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin's chief spokesman, said: "In accordance with our legislation [his remarks are] being treated as a crime. It will cause some questions from the British authorities to Mr Berezovsky. We want to believe that official London will never grant asylum to someone who wants to use force to change the regime in Russia." It will not be the first time the British government has faced accusations from the Kremlin that it is providing a safe haven for Mr Berezovsky. When he told a Moscow radio station last year that he wanted to see Mr Putin overthrown by force, Jack Straw, then foreign secretary, told the Commons that "advocating the violent overthrow of a sovereign state is unacceptable" and warned the tycoon he could be stripped of his refugee status. Russian authorities subsequently sent an extradition request to London. That failed, however, when a district judge ruled Mr Berezovsky could not be extradited as long as he has asylum status. In an interview with the Guardian, however, Mr Berezovsky goes much further than before, claiming to be in close contact with members of Russia's political elite who, he says, share his view that Mr Putin is damaging Russia by rolling back democratic reforms, smothering opposition, centralising power and flouting the country's constitution. "There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections," he says. "If one part of the political elite disagrees with another part of the political elite - that is the only way in Russia to change the regime. I try to move that." While declining to describe these contacts - and alleging that they would be murdered if they were identified - he maintained that he was offering his "experience and ideology" to members of the country's political elite, as well as "my understanding of how it could be done". He added: "There are also practical steps which I am doing now, and mostly it is financial." Mr Berezovsky said he was unconcerned by any threat to strip him of his refugee status. "Straw wasn't in a position to take that decision. A judge in court said it wasn't in the jurisdiction of Straw." He added that there was even less chance of such a decision being taken following the polonium-210 poisoning last November of his former employee, Alexander Litvinenko. "Today the reality is different because of the Litvinenko case." Mr Berezovsky, 61, a former mathematician, turned to business during the Yeltsin years and made his fortune by capturing state assets at knockdown prices during Russia's rush towards privatisation. Although he played a key role in ensuring Mr Putin's victory in the 2000 presidential elections, the two men fell out as the newly elected leader successfully wrested control of Russia back from the so-called oligarchy, the small group of tycoons who had come to dominate the country's economy. A few months after the election Mr Berezovsky fled Russia, and applied successfully for asylum in the UK after Mr Litvinenko, an officer with the KGB's successor, the FSB, came forward to say he had been ordered to murder the tycoon. Mr Berezovsky changed his name to Platon Elenin, Platon being the name of a character in a Russian film based loosely upon his life. He was subsequently given a British passport in this name. As well as claiming to be financing and encouraging coup plotters in Moscow, Mr Berezovsky said he had dedicated much of the last six years to "trying to destroy the positive image of Putin" that many in the west held, portraying him whenever possible as a dangerously anti- democratic figure. He said he had also opposed the Russian president through Kommersant, the influential Russian newspaper which he controlled until last year. Last month Mr Berezovsky was questioned by two detectives from the Russian prosecutor general's office who were in London to investigate the death of Mr Litvinenko. He has denied claims that he refused to answer many of their questions. Last night the Kremlin said Russian authorities might want to question him again in the light of his interview with the Guardian. "I now believe our prosecutor general's office has got lots of questions for Mr Berezovsky," said Mr Peskov. He added: "His words are very interesting. This is a very sensitive issue." The Foreign Office said it had nothing to add to Mr Straw's comments of last year. For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:45:37 EDT 2008 Article: 614049 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.german Subject: Wie jüdische Bankiers die Oktoberrevolution finanzierten Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:21:33 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 78 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 3769 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:614049 soc.culture.swiss:58805 soc.culture.german:344296 Vergiss niemal! On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:37:04 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider wrote: Westliche jüdische Kreise waren schon lange vor 1917 daran interessiert, das Zarenreich zu beseitigen. 1917 ergab sich die Gelegenheit dazu, man musste nur die entsprechenden Zahlungen auf den Weg bringen. Dazu reiste Trotzki nach New York und nahm von Jakob Schiff, Hauptaktionär des jüdischen Bankhauses Kuhn Loeb & Co., 10 Millionen Dollar entgegen (heute etwa 150 Mio Dollar), meist in kleinen Goldmünzen, die in Russland an zaristische Soldaten verteilt wurden. Am 27.3.1917 ging Trotzki an Bord des Schiffes "Christiana" und reiste nach Russland, wobei er noch jüdisch-russische Revolutionäre mitnahm. Eine zweite grosse Finanztranche erhielten die Bolschewiki über Max Warburg, jüdisch-deutscher Bankier und Chef des deutschen Geheimdienstes während des 1.Weltkrieges. Sein Bruder Paul war übrigens Chef der amerikan. Federal Reserve Bank. Gezahlt wurden durch den Warburg-Mittelsmann Parvus 6 Millionen Dollar in Gold (heute etwa 100 Mio $), und zwar an Lenin, die dieser bei seiner Durchreise 1917 mitnahm. Kuhn Loeb & Co. arbeitete auch nach der Revolution bestens mit den Bolschewiki zusammen. Das Bankhaus beteiligte sich an der Finanzierung des ersten Fünfjahrplanes. 600 Millionen Dollar in Gold gingen allerdings von Russland an Kuhn Loeb. Es ist schon bemerkenswert gewesen: Jüdische Erzkapitalisten verhelfen den Verstaatlichern in Russland zum Sieg und machen mit ihnen beste Geschäfte. Ach so, jaja, die Quellen: Sutton, Anthony C., Wallstreet and the Bolshevik Revolution, Arlington House, 1974 Pearson, Michael, Der plombierte Wagen - Lenins Weg aus dem Exil zur Macht, München 1973 Werner For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 or to KenMcVay@nizkor.org. Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:45:37 EDT 2008 Article: 614060 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Germans Increasingly Anti-ZYD Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:27:19 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 1428 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:614060 soc.culture.german:344301 soc.culture.swiss:58807 Canadian Jew News report in a headlien story on page 47 in the issue for 2 November 2006, that anti-ZYD incidents are dramatically increasing throughout Germany this year. What really concerns the ZYDS is that now in 4 of the German States, right-wing political parties have now won seats. In the September elections, Mecklenburg-West Pomerania was the latest State to elect right-thinking representatives. Allegedly, per CJN, this year has seen so far 8,000 hate crimes, compared to 6,605 last year. Supposedly there were 452 violent anti-ZYD crimes reported, up from only 363 last year. Guess the Germans have had enough of the HOLOHOAX? From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:45:38 EDT 2008 Article: 614062 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!83.128.0.12.MISMATCH!news-out2.kabelfoon.nl!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!xindi.nntp.kabelfoon.nl!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.australian Subject: Why Are ZYDs/Jews So Hated Worldwide? Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:29:01 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 42 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 2767 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.canada:597846 soc.culture.europe:614062 soc.culture.australian:463175 When creatures such as Richard Warman use the Canadian Human Rights Commission to persecute individuals for having a different political opinion, or even for being politically incorrect, then people who do THINK start wondering about the truth of much that Warman and his ilk promulgate!! People then start to wonder, whether what they are told is really TRUE, or just HOLOHOAX!! When they find evidence contradicting the so-called official propaganda, then they really get annoyed. Is this what Warman is afraid of? On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:05:19 -0600, George Firestone wrote: >On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 18:04:31 -0600, in soc.culture.europe KenMcVaySOBC > , wrote: >From: "Dore" >Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,can.politics,alt.religion.christian >Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 01:44:07 GMT > wrote in message >news:1111982502.845744.275140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >>J Douglas wrote: >> Yes, yes, yes. All the Jews I know are aware that some people hate us >> even though we've never done them any harm. All this crap about Jews >> controlling the media and lying all the time is merely an excuse. It's >> a way to rationalize your irrational hatred of people you've never met. >> May I suggest you try and solve your problems instead of blaming us for >> them? That's what most people do and they're quite successful at it. >It is NOT the working class Jew that the people hate, but the wealthy elite >Jews, who rule and govern, censor and control, not only the media, but all >governments, banks, and corporations in injustice, oppression, selfish gain, >greed, powerlust, and warmongering. And it isn't BECAUSE they are Jews >either, it just so happens that the power elite ARE Jews, who DO control >the world, who have caused all of the chaos, horror, pain and suffering and >the sad state that the world is in. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:45:38 EDT 2008 Article: 614075 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.palestine Subject: German academics: Enough of special treatment for Israel Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:17:10 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 96 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 5121 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:614075 soc.culture.german:344305 soc.culture.palestine:702568 German academics: Enough of special treatment for Israel. Immer die verfluechte Juden! On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:24:18 -0500, in soc.culture.europe Defendario wrote: Twenty five influential academics post petition calling on government to stop embracing Israel because of Holocaust, start embracing Palestinians as well Eldad Beck Published: 11.16.06, 09:33 BERLIN – Twenty five German academics published a petition Wednesday urging their government to loosen its embrace of Israel and start embracing Palestinians in an unprecedented act in the history of the relationship between Germany and Israel. The academics in question are highly influential professors at the country’s leading universities which were mainly funded by the German government. Many of them are known for their anti-Israel stances. The academics called on the German government to stop giving “special treatment” to Israel following the Holocaust and warned that the sympathetic attitude could lead to unrest amidst the German people. The petition was recently published in the German based journal Frankfurter Rundschau owned by the Dumont Schauberg publishing house. The company recently purchased 25 percent of Haaretz’s stocks. The 25 petition signers called on a change in the character of the relationship between Israel and Germany, which would lead the two countries to have a “friendship free from past burdens,” one which would leave room for expressing criticism of Israel. According to the academics, the Holocaust binds Germany to not only stand by Israel, but to also stand by the Palestinians. They said this was important since the ramifications of the Holocaust lead to much suffering for the Palestinians over the past 60 years. Germany obligated to stand exclusively by Israel? The petition said, “A large part of the German society has turned the shame and grief of the Holocaust into a ceremonial matter. That is how a problematic philo-Semitism has developed in Germany.” “The roots of this 60 year bloody confrontation in the Middle East are German and European. The Palestinian population has doesn’t have the responsibility to take on some of Europe’s problems in the Middle East,” the petition continued. Those who signed the petition expressed criticism of the “special” relationship between the two countries which lead to Germany providing Israel with advanced military technologies, even when Israel had violated international law and violated human rights. The academics questioned whether Germany was obligated to stand exclusively by Israel in the Middle East in light of the Holocaust, and wondered about the whether preserving the relationship would have consequences on the German people, particularly between Jews and Muslims. “Each new attack on Israeli citizens and each disproportional action by the IDF and Israel’s government reinforce the polarization in Germany between those in favor of Israel and those against it in terrifying measures. Such an atmosphere makes an open public dialogue on the questions we raised extremely crucial," the petition said. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3328858,00.html For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! 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From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:45:38 EDT 2008 Article: 614122 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.german Subject: Was There Really A Holocaust? Or Just HOLOHOAX? Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:19:19 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 285 Message-ID: <11q544pfprbuf8j5mn6ikj9n9ll72cvrtt@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 15939 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:614122 soc.culture.swiss:58818 soc.culture.german:344361 A valid question regarding the HOLOHOAX, particularly now that the KOLLABORATION of such prominent filthy ZYDS such as KASTNER, RUTKOWSKI,and WIESENTHAL et al is well documented and proven even by ZYDS! On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:58:17 +0000, in can.politics Jill Tyrell wrote: The short answer, of course, is NO. The "Holocaust" has given Israel a tremendous psychological advantage over the Gentile world, particularly America and Germany. By exploiting the guilt complex instilled in non-Jews, they have obtained: Over $65 billion in aid from Germany. Over $55 billion in aid from America. Israel, a prosperous country, receives $3.2 billion, (or $8 million a day) in foreign aid - more than any other country. The 45,000 Jewish immigrants from Russia have the highest annual quota after Mexico. They enter as "refugees" without having to prove persecution! As "refugees" they are automatically entitled to full welfare benefits not subject to welfare reform cuts. Nonstop holocaust brainwashing in schools, TV, movies and books has placed Israel and organized Jewry above criticism! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Official Holocaust Figures Reduced Immediately after World War II, Allied authorities declared that "Jews had been gassed" in all German concentration camps. It later discovered that the many bodies photographed in the camps died during the waning days of the war - from typhus, cold and starvation. Simon Wiesenthal, of the "Holocaust Center" in Los Angeles, stated in Books and Bookmen, April 1975, page 5, "No gassing took place in any camp on German soil." The Jew L.P. Beria headed the Soviet NKVD secret police >from 1938 to 1953. In 1945, he announced that they had discovered a "holocaust" of six million Jews. This conveniently occurred only in camps in Poland! Beria would not allow any outside investigators to examine these sites. The Jewish-owned New York Times reported in 1945 that Soviet Russia supplied the figure of four million Jews having been put to death, "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz." However, in July of 1990, the Polish government reduced this figure to 1.1 million and it was accepted by Jewish groups. Despite this evidence, the "official figure" of six million dead was not lowered to three million! (It should also be noted that Elizabeth Dole, president of the American Red Cross, and wife of former Sen. Bob Dole, revealed that the official death records from Auschwitz had been uncovered in the Soviet Archives. It listed 70,000 deaths from all causes.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No Holocaust Order Ever Given The Germans are noted for being meticulous record keepers. There was no attempt made to destroy wartime records, 1,100 tons of which were seized in the U.S. Zone of occupation alone. British Historian, Colin Cross, writes in his biography of Hitler, on page 313: "There does not exist then, anything like a written order signed by Hitler for the extermination of the Jews in Europe." Madagascar is a vast island off the coast of Africa in the Indian Ocean, then owned by France. Thousands of pages of German documents have been located providing a thorough study of the feasibility of establishing a Jewish homeland on the island of Madagascar. Plans were made for the reimbursement of the 25,000 French citizens who lived there. Even the government of France studied the plan. Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, considered Madagascar a possible site for a Jewish state. He also considered Kenya, Africa, the Sinai from the Suez Canal to the Gaza Strip, and a huge area in southern Poland, but they really wanted Palestine. The German Foreign Ministry on January 25, 1939 issued a document on the solution to the Jewish problem which stated: "The end policy in regard to the Jews is the emigration of all Jews living in the territory of the Old Reich." In Auschwitz Notebooks, we read that all of the top German leadership supported this plan. "On November 12, 1938, Goring had mentioned the question of Madagascar. Himmler himself had dreamed of that since 1934, a witness assures us. After the armistice of June 1940 (surrender of France), the idea was propounded by the Foreign Ministry and approved by Himmler as well as by Hitler himself." For these reasons SS official Reinhard Heydrich organized the Central Office for Jewish Emigration on February 11, 1939. Once the war began, this was no longer possible. Thus Hitler ordered the internment of Jews as enemy aliens and deported them to the east. On January 27, 1942, Hitler said: "The Jews must leave Europe. The best thing is that they go to Russia." Roosevelt did the same thing as Hitler by ordering 120,000 Americans of Japanese descent living on the West Coast interned in concentration camps. In March 1942 Roosevelt accused them of being "security risks." The Japanese men, women and children were imprisoned behind barbed wire fences and armed guard towers in the blazing hot desert. The Nuremberg War Crimes Trial heard testimony from Hans Lammers as to what he considered the "Final Solution of The Jewish Problem." Lammers was Chief of the Reich Chancellery and personally close to Himmler and Hitler. Lammers said he asked Himmler what was the "final solution." Himmler replied: "The Jews must be evacuated from Germany!" He said that Hitler told him the same thing. In other words, "The Final Solution" was --emigration! When asked, "when did you first learn that five million Jews had been exterminated," Lammers replied that it was "here" at the Nuremberg trials! Herman Goring also told the court that the first time he had heard anything about a holocaust was, "right here at Nuremberg!" Auschwitz was a massive military-industrial complex of 39 camps of which 19 mainly employed Jews. The factories at the "Monowitz No. 16 Camp" alone employed 126,000 workers. Holocaust expert, Leon Poliakov of Paris, in Breviary of Hate, page 134, in 1979 wrote that the Jewish Warsaw Ghetto was one of the Germans' "most important supply centers. The second in economic importance was the Lodz ghetto because it manufactured all kinds of goods, and, in particular, its textile industries constituted support of great value to the German economy." Heinrich Himmler feared a typhus epidemic in the camps. Eastern European Jews were very unhygienic and were often blamed for the spread of typhus. On December 28, 1942, Himmler ordered that, "the death rate in the camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source, Reitlinger's book, The Final Solution.) On January 20, 1943, chief inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks, answered Himmler, "Every means will be used to lower the death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Trial Document No. 1523.) The death rate had indeed been reduced from 8.5% in July 1942 to 2.8% in June 1943. On April 17, 1943, Hitler asked Admiral Horthy, regent of Hungary for, "100, 000 Jews to work on a new pursuit plane program." (Source, Reitlinger's book, Die Endlosung, 1956, page 478.) In May 1944 Hitler personally ordered that 200,000 more Jews be put to work in construction and "other important military works." The Jews were vital to the German war industry. It would have been counter productive to exterminate them. In fact, the SS arrested Karl Koch, commandant of Buchenwald, for mistreating and unjustly executing some prisoners. After being found guilty by a military court, Koch was sentenced to death and shot. If there was actually a "holocaust" he would have been honored instead of executed. Shindler's List features Commandant Amon Goeth, who in reality did abuse prisoners. However, the film fails to inform viewers that he had been arrested by the SS and was in prison awaiting trial at war's end. Most of the gruesome pictures of bodies we see in "made for TV" holocaust dramas are those who died of starvation and disease during the final chaotic months of the war. An example is Dachau. Some 54 died in January 1944 and 101 in February 1944. When food and medical supplies could not be delivered due to Allied bombings, 2,888 died in January and 3,977 in February 1945. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Impossibility of Mass Gassings Auschwitz had no mass graves. The cremation of four million bodies would have left 15,000 tons of ash which was never found. Many tons of coal would have been necessary for such mass cremations. Initially, the Soviets told conflicting stories about how the six million perished in the camps under their control. At first they claimed that the inmates had been "steamed" to death. On December 5, 1945, a Communist judge issued the following "Accusation No. 6" against defendant Hans Frank at Nuremberg: "A large boiler for the production of superheated steam was injected into the interior of the rooms. The doors are closed hermetically and the long asphyxiation of the victims by the steam begins. At the start, screams came from inside, they die down slowly; after 15 minutes, the executions are completed." This story was not believable. It was then changed to allege that trucks were backed up to the "death chambers" and carbon monoxide gas was pumped into the rooms. This claim too was "forgotten" and the Soviets then charged that the Germans changed the "steam chambers" into "gas chambers." The Soviets came up with a novel idea of how the Jews were exterminated at the Belzec camp. "The Jews were ordered to undress as though to take a bath. They were led in fact into a building that could hold hundreds of people. The water was filled up to their necks. Then a powerful electric current was sent into the metal flooring and within a few seconds all the Jews, thousands at a time, were dead." Soviet prosecutor L.N. Smirnov actually read this accusation into the record at the December 19, 1945, session of the Nuremberg trial. This story finally evolved to execution by "Zyklon B" gas. This was a widely used pesticide to kill lice which was the biggest health threat in the camps. Had the Germans actually wanted to perform mass exterminations, they had products one-thousand times more deadly such as Sarin and Tabun nerve gas! Austrian Engineer Walter Luftl issued a report in March 1992, in which he found that, "Zyklon B is utterly unsuited for the purposes of systematic mass murder." Fred Leuchter, America's foremost expert on executions, took a team of investigators to Auschwitz in 1988 and reported: "I traveled to Poland to investigate the alleged execution gas chamber facilities at the three concentration camps of Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek. My forensic analysis and subsequent report proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that there were no gas execution facilities operated by the Nazis at these sites." Leuchter also examined the capacity of the so-called "gas chamber building" at Birkenau. The Nuremberg Tribunal's document No. L-022 stated: "1,765,000 Jews were gassed at Birkenau between April 1942 and April 1944." However, Leuchter found that even if used at full capacity "only 105,688" persons could have been "gassed." His team scraped forensic samples from brick, mortar and concrete to find traces of cyanide compounds which would be present for centuries. They were submitted to the Alpha Analytical Laboratories of Ashland, Massachusetts. In March 1988, the Alpha report found that no cyanide elements, consistent with what could be expected to be found in a gas chamber, were present. A retired German judge, Dr. Wilhelm Staglich said: "The extermination thesis stands or falls with the allegation that Auschwitz was a 'death factory.'" Fred Leuchter's finding: "We have provided the definitive proof that there were no execution gas chambers utilized for genocidal purposes by the Germans at these wartime camps. The simple fact is that the holocaust story is not true." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How Many Jews Actually Died? The World Almanac for 1947, in quoting figures supplies by the American Jewish Committee states that the world Jewish population in 1939 was 15,688,259. The New York Times of February 22, 1948, stated that the world Jewish population ranged from 15,600,000 to 18,700,000, excluding some 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine. How could the Jewish population have increased so rapidly after losing six million during World War II? Walter Sanning, the author of Dissolution of European Jewry, says that no less than 2,200,000 Jews had emigrated out of Europe leaving 2,847,000 Jews residing there at the height of the German occupation in June 1941. After the war, 3,375,000 Jews, according to the Red Cross, applied for holocaust reparations. This figure included many of the emigrants. Thus, the actual number of those who died at the camps from all causes ranges between 150,000 and 300,000. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Holocaust" Silences Opposition Hardly a week goes by without a new holocaust story in the media. Bernard Postal wrote in Jewish Week, July 14, 1979: "Not until the Holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in national (political) campaigns. The Holocaust puts a taboo on overt anti-Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists." Zionist spokesmen have often boasted that, "The shattering effect of the holocaust on the Christian conscience results in a feeling of collective indebtedness to the Jews." The Red Cross issued a massive, three volume, 1,600 page report on the camps after the war, part of which reads: "In the final moths of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims." ... Gen. Kaltenbrunner. . . Allowed the Red Cross to distribute relief packages and one (Red Cross) delegate was authorized to stay in each camp (as an observer). Does this sound like a holocaust? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What About Real Holocausts? Why doesn't the film industry or news media produce documentaries about the numerous true holocausts of Gentiles during this century such as: The Soviet Holocaust of Christian Russian Kulak farmers. (1924 - 1930) - 15 million exterminated! The Holocaust of the Ukranian farmers, (1930- 1933) - 7 million starved to death. The Holocaust of Russian political prisoners, (1919 - 1949) - 12 million perished. The Pol Pot Communist Holocaust in Cambodia (1975) - 2.5 million slaughtered. Armenian Holocaust by the Turks, (1915) - 1.5 million people killed. Bear in mind that the Jews are the only racial group with an organization like the World Jewish congress which wields fearsome power! From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:45:40 EDT 2008 Article: 614189 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.europe,alt.homosexual Subject: ZYDS/Jews Run USA Fag Movement Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:57:32 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 485 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 19842 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2347120 soc.culture.europe:614189 alt.homosexual:343169 On Mon, 19 May 2008 00:44:53 -0500, , Ramabriga wrote: =--- http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/2008/05/jews-run-homosexual-movement-in-america.html Monday, May 5, 2008 Jews Run the Homosexual Movement in America; Militant Homosexual Activism Led and Funded by People of Jewish Heritage News from the West provides the evidence that a disproportionate number of the most radical elements in the militant homosexual rights lobby are of Jewish origin. . . . Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all, that the radical homosexual movement in the United States is a Jewish movement. Jews created it and run it from top to bottom. They are pushing the perversion and degeneracy that is spreading disease, sin and sickness through America like a wildfire. -The West Larry Kramer -- co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis Alan Klein -- co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer Nation, National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co-founded the successful multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM Arnie Kantrowitz -- co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Jonathan D. Katz -- founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the largest queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer political activist, was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San Francisco branch]. Harvey Fierstein -- film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay activist. Moisés Kaufman -- playwright and film director [The Laramie Project]. Israel Fishman -- founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now known as the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of the American Library Association], the world's first gay professional organization. Bella Abzug and Edward Koch -- both Jewish -- the first members of the U.S. House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning discrimination based on sexual orientation [1974]. Winnie Stachelberg -- political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC] Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans. Tony Kushner -- gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright [for Angels in America, 1992]. Len Hirsch -- president of the GLBT federal government employees group, GLOBE. Meg Moritz, Ph.D. -- a Director and member of the Executive Committee of GLAAD. Barbara Raab -- an NBC-TV producer; a "Jewish lesbian feminist journalist, writer." Charles Kaiser [?] -- author & founding member of National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA]. David Goodstein -- owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate [1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby. Judy Wieder -- Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine. Alison Bechdel [?] -- cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly comic strip "Dykes to Watch Out For." Kevin Koffler -- Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine. Garrett Glaser -- National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA] national board member. Ronald Gold -- reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn the American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an illness. Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany; founded one of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific Humanitarian Committee; coined the term "transvestism"; fled Nazi Germany. Fred Hochberg -- deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business Administration; co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC]. Michael Berman -- member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors. Mitchell Gold -- HRC Board Marty Lieberman -- HRC BoardAndy Linsky -- HRC BoardDana Perlman -- HRC BoardAbby Rubenfeld -- HRC Board Andrew Tobias -- HRC Board Lara Schwartz -- Senior Counsel, HRC Heather Wellman -- HRC Field Coordinator Dan Furmansky -- HRC Senior Field Organizer, West Sally Green -- HRC Associate Field Director Rick Rosendall [?] -- President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of Washington, DC. Barney Frank -- member of U.S. Congress; helped create non-discriminatory employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies Kerry Lobel -- executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women's Cultural Alliance and author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide]. Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund -- and -- the executive director of Freedom to Marry. Jennifer Einhorn -- Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD] Nancy Alpert [?] -- Treasurer, GLAAD Judy Gluckstern -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.Stephen M. Jacoby -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.Matt Riklin -- Board, GLAADCarol Rosenfeld -- Board, GLAAD.William Weinberger -- Board, GLAAD Tanya Wexler -- Board, GLAAD. David Huebner -- GLAAD Counsel. Richard Goldstein -- Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics Ron Schlittler -- Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays [PFLAG]. Craig Ziskin -- Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG. Debra Weill -- Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG. Dody Goldstein -- Board of Directors, PFLAG. David Horowitz -- Board of Directors, PFLAG. Shawn Frank -- Board of Directors, PFLAG. Leon Weinstein -- Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG. Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights. Gayle Rubin -- lesbian author/activist. Hilary Rosen -- a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund; former board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign. Roz Richter, American attorney and activist. Bob Kunst -- long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes. "Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network" [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs: Marty Seldman, president "National Gay & Lesbian Task Force" [NGLTF]. Board co-chairs: ..... Rachel Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M Dave Fleischer -- Director of Training [political training], NGLTF. Craig Hoffman -- Board of Directors, NGLTF. Beth Zemsky -- Board, NGLTF. Marsha C. Botzer -- Treasurer, NGLTF. Jeff Levi -- first, Levi was NGTF's lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF became NGLTF in 1985]. Later, he was NGLTF executive director. Bill Rubenstein, J.D. '86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights Project Martin Duberman -- author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies at the City University of New York. Ben Schatz '81, J.D. '85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Foundation. Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk Institute in San Francisco, the world's largest center for queer studies. Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist [one of the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian rights organization]. Susan Spielman -- principal/head of Common Ground, an education/consulting firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation education; her company has worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations, helping them to implement domestic partner benefits plans; co-author of the book Straight Talk About Gays in the Workplace. Gertrude Stein -- wrote the first openly lesbian novel, "Q.E.D.," in 1903, but it was only published posthumously in 1950. Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman. Michael Goff -- founded Out magazine in 1992. Paulette Goodman -- founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of PFLAG and served as President of the National PFLAG organization from 1988-1992. Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial Network; president and CEO of out.com. Jim Levin -- New York gay historian. Barrett Brick -- GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer. Robin Tyler -- American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the first openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who was the stage producer for the first three gay marches on Washington and the national protest coordinator for the "Stop Dr. Laura" campaign; she produces women's comedy and music festivals, and operates a lesbian travel-tour company. Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist, molecular biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the use of nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive director of the National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa Foundation [an AIDS prevention research organization]. Mark Elderkin [?] -- co-founded Gay.com. Leroy Aarons -- American professor, journalist, and founder of the National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990). Dr. Donald I. Abrams -- American physician, HIV expert, medical marijuana researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association. Johnny Abush (1952-2000) -- [Canadian]; archivist of the International Jewish GBLT Archives. Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official; appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity by President Bill Clinton in 1993. Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and gay activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the Reserves when a court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as its first president. Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982]. Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out Day [October 11th]. Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to serve as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy [ONAP]. Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice President of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that launched and marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the Board of Directors of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Surina Kahn -- American lesbian activist. Larry Kessler -- founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action Committee of Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in New England. Kathy Levinson -- American investor and philanthropist; serves on the board of PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors. Judith Light -- actress, activist for gay causes. David Mixner -- gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of wealthy gays and lesbians who became influential in local politics; president Bill Clinton's Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community. Dan Savage -- American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What Happened After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping Towards Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness in America] and gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love]. Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager of the Planet Out gay and lesbian online service. Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] -- founder and coordinator of the Lavender Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York chapter of the Gay Liberation Front. David Sine [?] -- American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian cable TV network. Rex Wockner -- longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news for the gay press since 1985. Jack Fritscher -- became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine [1977]. Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender activist and author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to RuPaul]. Allan Ginsburg - late Jewish poet and leading member of North American Man Boy Love Association Anonymous said... Found this on Rense.com. Great info! May 5, 2008 2:08 PM Anonymous said... Let me guess. Is this what they did in 1920s Germany? May 5, 2008 2:50 PM Joseph Capp said... This is absolute nonsense. "Jews" in New York have been at the forefront of many protest movements and Homosexual Jews are many times ostracized from the strict fundamentalist Jewish families. I am not a Jew or homosexual. But the friends I have who happened to be I would rather have around my children these friends, then the likes of you. Joseph Capp UFO Media Matters Non-Commercial Blog May 5, 2008 2:53 PM curt maynard said... Joseph Capp, you are one or more of the following three things: Stupid, Delusional, or Complicit. May 5, 2008 3:08 PM Charles Fockaert said... So much for homosexuals staying in the privacy of bedrooms where their perversions were nobody's business but their own. Now they are in our face with their abnormality. And this guy Capp would rather his kids be around these types than heterosexuals? What if we all became queer? What then of civilization? May 5, 2008 3:26 PM Anonymous said... Mr. Capp is the ideal man for the 21st century--a vocal advocate for the complete disintegration of his own country--no, his entire culture! A man who would rather hand his own children to these perverts and destroyers than have them be in the presence of those with a healthy sense of race, history & current events. May 5, 2008 5:54 PM Carlito B. said... This doesn't surprise me at all. Shine the light of truth on any movement or industry that has been destroying the fabric of our society and you will find the tribe members in leadership positions. Prove me wrong! May 5, 2008 6:40 PM Anonymous said... Well we knew that was going to happen. May 5, 2008 7:22 PM Anonymous said... The Broad Brush of this could also relate that Jeff Rense is part of the Jewish conspiracy as he is in media and is a Californian with ties to gay supporting Disney. What this could be studied for is why is it that somes Jews have abandoned their Torah roots and then sought leadership positions against their own faith? What is it in this community which is causing this as Apache Indians aren't in the same numbers. There is a difference between hammering all Jews and researching historically how adept Jews were as a group at succeeding. Once upon a time in America Jews were banned from the cloth industry by law. In turn, they went into rags and dominated that recycling venue and made it an industry. Sometimes Jews went into media and dominated that to the great benefit of America. All Americans can enjoy the early years of Hollywood and Disney in the fine wholesome creations they created. What needs to be studied is there a pedophile problem turning Jews into homosexuals or is it something to do with guilt in being wealthy while others were worked to death in the holocaust that causes some Jews to self loathe their own heritage and America turning out a self destructive person who is taking part in a movement to destroy America. Jeff Rense featured this blog and yet his guests and features are people like Devvy Kidd who are anarchists calling for the end of the GOP which is stuck with John McCain to people who claim Jesus and God do not exist. There are allot of self destructive movements in this United States doing their worst to rip this nation apart as they judge others. What would be fascinating would be for News From the West to email all of the people you list as being public they have contact information and just ask them about their homosexuality in how it started and if they have an insight why is it that it seems so many Jews are part of this in the context why is it so many Catholics like John Kerry are for aborting babies when it is against their religious teachings. God bless. May 5, 2008 7:39 PM Anonymous said... Protocols of the elders of zion, is the blue print for it all. read it, and digest it. May 5, 2008 7:42 PM Anonymous said... Jew homos are also known as He-Blews May 5, 2008 9:05 PM Anonymous said... As a fag who is not a Jew, I have seen and known thousands of people in the gay community and very few are Jewish. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Just go to your local gay bar and see how many people are Jewish - very few. May 6, 2008 1:58 AM Anonymous said... It should be Zionists run, etc. Most "Jews" are in the dark like the rest of the masses. The "Zionists" are only one side of the problem. The "Zionists", Church(Jesuits/Catholic, Mormons, Protestants, etc.), the Muslims, etc are run by the same people. Instead of it being one or the other it is both. As long as the masses have different definitions for everything and are fighting each other instead of the real enemy, they will continue to win. May 6, 2008 12:16 PM Anonymous said... >>Just go to your local gay bar and see how many people are Jewish - very few. But in a bar how can you tell who's a jew? i mean is it the difference of the look in their dick being cut or uncut? im very serious, i cant think of a way that one could tell who would be a jew and who isnt. May 6, 2008 1:04 PM Anonymous said... To the fag who is not a jew. It really makes no difference who's in your fag bar. That's not the point. Do you really think all the people name above - Jews who are leading this perverted movement - go to your bar? You didn't address the point made - the JEWS are in leadership positions of every part of this movement. The point isn't that Jews are fags though many are. The point is Jews undermine and destroy every society they attach themselves to. Through communism, fagism, destruction of Christian values, controlling the media and the money, and now making laws which criminalize even pointing out the criminal conduct of Jews. Our country was founded by Christians. jews have destroyed it. May 6, 2008 2:32 PM Anonymous said... I thought circumcision(genital mutilation) was required for their male "bonding" ritual, "Jews" or Gentiles. May 6, 2008 4:20 PM * ?The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion, a question which will be one of life or death, good health or chronic disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever.? ---Franz Liszt And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:45:41 EDT 2008 Article: 614238 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.russian Subject: Ukraine Marks 75th Anniversary of ZYD/Soviet-era Famine That Claimed 10 Million 1/2 Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:40:47 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 505 Message-ID: <93ib44d57gotqb973jl7lraq04n5fts5if@4ax.com> References: <4666-456D6D99-20@storefull-3331.bay.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 26705 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.ukrainian:116335 soc.culture.europe:614238 soc.culture.russian:504994 HOLODOMOR - The Forgiven Holocaust of 1932-33 1932 1933 YEARS OF ARTIFICIAL FAMINE IN UKRAINE CREATED BY THE MUSCOVITE OCCUPIERS = Christkiller ZYDS Ran NKVD ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PICTURE: http://www.ukar.org/famine01.gif (Oksana Procyk, Leonid Heretz, and James E. Mace, Famine in the Soviet Ukraine 1932-1933: A Memorial Exhibition, Widener Library Harvard University, Harvard University Press, Cambridge Massachusetts, 1986, p. 71) In selecting documents for inclusion in the Famine Archive, I have adhered to the general Ukrainian Archive policy of allowing room for opposing points of view. In order for an accurate picture of the Famine to emerge, it is essential that opposing arguments be recognized and either confirmed or disconfirmed; and if, upon occasion, descriptions of the Ukrainian famine have been inaccurate, then having this pointed out by critics constitutes a valuable contribution toward arriving at a true account. To fear and to inhibit opposing arguments, or the correction of errors, might seem necessary only to those who worry that the Ukrainian Terror Famine has never occurred, or who fear that permitting corrections will cast the entire story into doubt. But such worries and fears are groundless. Errors, contradictions, exaggerations — all of these enter in to cloud our perception of every historical event, and to expect otherwise with respect to the Ukrainian Terror Famine would be unrealistic. Therefore, where criticism of certain Famine accounts is warranted, the criticism must be greeted as providing a useful guide as to how to improve the quality of future accounts. Where any inaccuracies have been introduced by the press, then this might be taken as an indication that the press needs to be both monitored and educated. Where inaccuracies have been introduced by writers contracted primarily because of their fame, then this might be taken as a warning that buying fame is not the same as buying historical fidelity. Finally, in the case where facts are simply created out of thin air by Soviet or Russian representatives, then a sampling of even this too is not inappropriate — or else the reader would be left with no awareness that any dispute is possible, and so would go out into the world less prepared for the disinformation that he is certain to meet there. http://www.ukar.org/famine06.htm Collectivization and the famine BY BOHDAN KRAWCHENKO UKRAINE FAMINE 1933 Special Edition issued by the Ukrainian Canadian Committee Edmonton Branch October 14, 1983 In 1932 and 1933 millions of people in Ukraine died of hunger. Unlike most famines, the one in Ukraine was not caused by some natural calamity or crop failure, but was man-made. The 1920s — "Golden Era" The peasantry — about 80 per cent of Ukraine's population — had fought pitched battles against landlords during the 1917 revolution to realize its age-old dream of owning land. When in 1918-19 the Bolsheviks occupied Ukraine and made their first bid to collectivize peasant land, the Ukrainian peasants resisted so fiercely that Lenin ordered "severe punishment" for any Bolshevik who preached collectivization. During the 1920s, peasants organized voluntary cooperatives and agriculture thrived. In this period the Ukrainian people forced the Bolsheviks to change their nationality policy. The Ukrainian language displaced Russian in education, state administration and the mass media. Ukrainians were recruited into the party and government. Within the Communist Party of Ukraine there developed a powerful Ukrainian wing which demanded an end to Russian domination in economic and political life. Stalin's policies in 1929 brought the "golden era" to an end Collectivization In 1928 Stalin suddenly announced accelerated industrialization in the form of the first five-year plan. The plan was hastily put together and, as a result, billions of rubles were wasted. By 1930 it became clear that Stalin's government was running out of funds. Rather than rethink economic strategies, Stalin ordered more grain to be squeezed out of the peasantry. The quickest method of accomplishing this, according to Stalin, was to establish collective farms by expropriating all peasant land, grain reserves and livestock without compensation. Also, collective farms would have to turn over all their produce to the state. Interestingly enough, when the Nazis occupied Ukraine, they did not abolish collective farms: they appreciated this finely tuned instrument for the exploitation of the peasantry. In Ukraine, collectivization had another aim: to "destroy the social basis of Ukrainian nationalism — individual peasant agriculture," according to the Soviet newspaper Proletarska Pravda, (22.1.1930). It was in 1930 as well that Stalin ordered the first of a series of purges of Ukrainian cultural and political figures — all part and parcel of a program to roll back the achievements of the national revival of the 1920s. The campaign against kulaks An essential component of forced collectivization, according to Stalin, was the "elimination of kulaks as a class." The word kulak conjures up an image of a wealthy, grasping peasant. The reality had little in common with the myth. In the 1920s there were laws banning the sale and purchase of land and of its rent. Land was distributed on the basis of the size of the peasant family. Some peasant households did, of course, own more land than others. But these households also had larger families to support. Compare the richest kulak in Ukraine with an industrial worker. In the mid-1920s the average annual income per working peasant in the richest peasant farm in Ukraine (comprising about 30 acres) was 200 rubles. The average worker, by contrast, made 521 rubles a year and received many social-security benefits which were not available to the peasantry. When the campaign against kulaks began, the Soviet regime was at a loss for a definition of the term and produced an arbitrary set of criteria. For example, a household owning a motor of any kind was classified as belonging to the kulak category. Neither were kulaks those who hired labor. As the Russian demographer M. Maksudov has shown, the majority of those employing labor in the countryside were invalids of the First World War and the revolution, widows and families with few children. The campaign against kulaks, therefore, had little to do with economic considerations. "Dekulakization" was intended to rid the countryside of peasants (irrespective of their material standing) who were most likely to organize and lead resistance to forced collectivization. According to official Soviet surveys, Ukraine had 71,500 kulak households in 1929. But according to official Soviet sources, between 1930 and 1932, 200,000 kulak households or one million people were "eliminated." The plan for the destruction of kulaks was overfulfilled by almost 200 per cent. The deportations Those who resisted collectivization were either executed or sent to prison camps and their families were deported to Siberia or the Russian Arctic circle. Peasant activists were deported with their families to the northern regions of Russian. Here is what some eyewitnesses wrote about their experiences: "Barefooted and poorly clad peasants were jammed into railroad cars and transported to the regions of Murmansk and the like. Peasants were unloaded into snow about two metres deep. The frost stood at 75 degrees below zero. Without even an axe or a saw we began building huts from tree branches. In two weeks all the children, the sick and the elderly had frozen to death." The death rate among Ukrainian peasants deported to the Sverdlovsk region in Russia was typical: only 2,300 of the original group of 4,800 survived the winter. The suffering during the deportations was terrible enough, yet it pales in comparison with what happened during the famine of 1932-33. Grain requisition campaigns By the spring of 1930 peasant resistance to collectivization had reached such proportions that Stalin panicked and ordered a temporary retreat. In an article entitled "Dizzy with Success," he admitted that excesses had occurred and falsely pinned the entire blame on local officials. Moreover, he reassured the peasants that membership in collective farms henceforth would be "voluntary." In the spring of 1930 there occurred a mass exodus of peasants from collective farms. Thinking that Stalin's regime had learned its lesson, peasants worked with a will and brought in an excellent harvest — 23.1 million (metric) tons of grain. But in the autumn of 1930 Stalin again changed course. He ordered the drive for collectivization to be resumed and the maximum amount of grain to be taken out of Ukraine. A third of the harvest, or 7.7 million tons of grain, was taken by the state. The renewed collectivization drive produced chaos in agricultural production. The peasantry was given no incentive to produce. By the end of 1930, for example, 78 per cent of collective farms in Ukraine had failed to pay peasants for the days that they had worked. Ironically, peasants' payment in Ukraine (in kilos of food produce) was half what it was in Russia. Reassured by his success of 1930, Stalin ordered the 1931 quota for grain delivery to the state to be set at the same level — 7.7 million tons. The 1931 harvest, however — 18.3 million tons of grain — was 20 per cent smaller than in 1930. Almost 30 per cent of the harvest was lost because of the breakdown of the transportation system. Intent on exporting grain to finance industrialization, Stalin ordered that it be requisitioned whatever the cost to the peasantry. By the early spring of 1932, 7 million tons had been taken. The amount was so great that the republic was short of seed grain by 45 per cent. Ukrainian officials knew that if the rate of grain requisitioning continued, famine would break out. They argued with Moscow for a major downward revision of Ukraine's agricultural obligations for 1932. M. Skrypnyk, Commissar of Education, in July 1932 recounted how, while touring the Ukrainian countryside, he had heard from peasants that "we had everything taken away from us but the broom." V. Chubar, head of the Ukrainian government, insisted that neither the peasants nor his administration were at fault for the agricultural crisis, but that it was due to the unrealistic plans of Moscow. Stalin did lower the amount of grain to be requisitioned in 1932 to 6.2 million tons, but this was still far above the capacities of the Ukraine in view of that year's poor harvest — 14.6 tons. Neither did Stalin relax the collectivization drive and, as a result, agriculture was plagued by chaos. Millions of tons of grain were lost. Tightening the noose Moscow sent a special mission, accompanied by troops, to oversee the 1932 grain requisition. Collective farms stopped distributing food to peasants. For example, according to official statistics, only five per cent of collective farms in Dnipropetrovsk province handed out food produce for days worked in 1932. To prevent peasants from feeding themselves by taking collective farm produce, a law was passed in August 1932 stipulating the death penalty, and under exceptional circumstances, a ten-year sentence in labor camps for "theft of socialist property." Thus, it was reported in the Soviet press (Visti, 10.11.1932) that the Dnipropetrovsk court had sentenced a group of hungry peasants to the firing squad for the theft of a sack of wheat. An obligatory delivery system was established for each collective farm. The harvest was organized in the form of a military operation, with soldiers guarding grain from the peasants. Officials and peasants who did not fulfill their quotas were treated in accordance with the infamous August 1932 decree. On 17 December 1932 regulations were tightened even further. A complete economic blockade was ordered of villages that did not fulfil their obligations to the state: all trade, all shipments of food and consumer goods, whatever their source, were prohibited. Officials, wrote Malcolm Muggeridge, "had gone over the country like a swarm of locusts and taken away everything edible; they shot and exiled thousands of peasants, sometimes whole villages; they have reduced some of the most fertile land in the whole world to a melancholy desert." Could have been avoided The famine finally subsided in 1934, when the 1933 harvest was brought in. This was because, in the spring of 1933, Moscow "lent" Ukraine seed grain. Moscow also reduced the quantity of grain to be delivered to the state to five million tons, about one-quarter of the 1933 harvest. Soviet officials today deny that the famine took place, although they do admit that there were problems due to drought. If that was the case, then Ukraine should have suffered a famine in 1934, not in 1932-33. The 1934 harvest was the worst in many years — 12.3 million tons. But there was no famine in 1934 because Stalin reduced the amount of grain from existing stocks to feed the population. He could have done this in 1932-33, but he did not. Instead, he deliberately exported 1.7 million tons of grain to the West to pay for industrial equipment. The offers of international relief organizations to assist the starving in Ukraine were rejected by the Soviet government on the grounds that there was no famine, hence no need to aid its victims. The borders of Ukraine were closely patrolled and starving Ukrainian peasants were not allowed to cross into Russia in search of bread. The toll How many millions perished? Harry Lang, editor of the left-wing Jewish daily Forward, published in New York, visited Ukraine in 1933 and was told by a high-ranking state official that six million people had perished from the famine. Other estimates range from 6.5 to 8.5 million. We will never know the exact number. We do know that according to the 1926 Soviet population census there were 31.2 million Ukrainians in the U.S.S.R. According to the 1939 Soviet census this number had dropped by 3.1 million to 28.1 million. (There was no emigration from the Soviet Ukraine in this period.) Over a 13-year period, according to Soviet statistics, the number of Ukrainians had diminished by 11 per cent. The population of the U.S.S.R., on the other hand, increased by 16 per cent and the number of Russians by 28 per cent. A national tragedy When the Ukrainian peasantry was under attack in 1932-33, Ukrainian political and cultural leaders sprang to their defense. Ewald Ammende, a German eyewitness who analysed this question, wrote in 1936: "The widest circle of the Ukrainian intelligentsia had entered the struggle: teachers, students, Soviet officials, all thought it was their duty to protest against a further sucking dry of their country.... The Soviet regime was faced by a united people, a solid front, including everyone from the highest Soviet officials down to the poorest peasants." Ukrainian cultural and political leaders paid a heavy price for refusing to become unwilling agents in the extermination of their own people. In 1933, at the height of the famine, a massive purge was ordered in Ukraine. As P. Postyshev, Stalin's henchman in Ukraine, pointed out, "almost all people removed were arrested and put before the firing squad." The purge continued virtually uninterrupted until 1938, claiming the lives of 80 per cent of Ukraine's creative intelligentsia. Thousands of priests of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church were killed, as were that church's 35 bishops. The desire to stamp out a Ukrainian national consciousness was so extreme that, according to the famous Russian composer, Dmitrii Shostakovich, several hundred blind bandurysty — itinerant folk singers — were executed. Hundreds of thousands of party members were shot. The purge was so thorough that by 1938 not a single secretary of the Council of the People's Commissars in Ukraine (the cabinet), not even a single deputy of Ukraine's parliament, the Supreme Soviet, was left. The purges were intended to deal a devastating blow to the existence of Ukrainians as a nation. At the 20th Party Congress in 1956 Khrushchev said Stalin had even considered deporting all Ukrainians to Siberia, but "there were too many of them and there was no place to which to deport them." With the famine and the purges, Stalin had come as close to destroying a nation as his unrestrained power would permit. http://www.ukar.org/famine07.htm Stalin's Famine in Ukraine MALCOLM MUGGERIDGE UKRAINE FAMINE 1933 Special Edition issued by the Ukrainian Canadian Committee Edmonton Branch October 14, 1983 "The novelty of this particular famine, what made it so diabolical, is that it was the deliberate creation of a bureaucratic mind, without any consideration whatever of the consequences of human suffering," Malcolm Muggeridge said. He was talking about the genocidal famine that swept Ukraine in the winter on 1932 and the spring and summer of 1933. Muggeridge was there that terrible winter and spring. As a correspondent for the Manchester Guardian in Moscow, he was one of the few Western journalists who circumvented Soviet restrictions and visited the famine regions and then honestly reported what he had seen. Marco Carynnyk talked to Muggeridge at his cottage in Sussex, England. Why did you decide to write about the famine in Ukraine? It was the big story in all our talks in Moscow. Everybody knew about it. There was no question about that. Anyone you were talking to knew that there was a terrible famine going on. Even in the Soviets' own pieces there were somewhat disguised acknowledgements of great difficulties there. I realized that that was the big story. I could also see that all the correspondents in Moscow were distorting it. Without making any kind of plans or asking for permission I just went and got a ticket for Kiev and then went on to Rostov. The Soviet security is not as good as people think it is. If you once duck it, you can go quite a long way. At least you could in those days. Going through the countryside by train one could sense the state of affairs. Ukraine was starving, and you only had to venture out to smaller places to see derelict fields and abandoned villages. On one occasion, I was changing trains, and I went wandering around, and in one of the trains in the station, the kulaks were being loaded onto the train, and there were military men all along the platform. I'll tell you another thing that's more difficult to convey, but it impressed me enormously. It was on a Sunday in Kiev, and I went into the church there for the Orthodox mass. I could understand very little of it, but there was some spirit in it that I have never come across before or after. Human beings at the end of their tether were saying to God, "We come to you, we're in trouble, nobody by You can help us." What were you thinking and, more importantly perhaps, what were you feeling when you saw those scenes of starvation and privation in Ukraine? How does one respond in such a situation? First of all, one feels a deep, deep, deep sympathy with and pity for the sufferers. Human beings look very tragic when they are starving. And remember that I wasn't unaware of what things were like because in India, for instance, I've been in a village during a cholera epidemic and seen people similarly placed. So it wasn't a complete novelty. The novelty of this particular famine, what made it so diabolical, is that it was not the result of some catastrophe like a drought or an epidemic. It was the deliberate creation of a bureaucratic mind which demanded the collectivization of agriculture, immediately, as a purely theoretical proposition, without any consideration whatever of the consequences in human suffering. That was what I found so terrifying. Think of a man in an office who has been ordered to collectivize agriculture and get rid of the kulaks without any clear notion or definition of what a kulak is, and who has in what was then the GPU and is now the KGB the instrument for doing this, and who then announces it in the slavish press as one of the great triumphs of the regime. Given the deliberate nature of the famine in Ukraine, given the fact that food continued to be stockpiled and exported even as people dropped dead on the streets, is it accurate to talk about this as a famine? Is it perhaps something else? How does one describe an event of such magnitude? Perhaps you do need another word. I don't know what it would be. The word ‘famine' means people have nothing whatsoever to eat and consume things that are not normally consumed. Of course there were stories of cannibalism there. I don't know whether they were true, but they were very widely believed. Certainly the eating of cattle and the consequent complete destruction of whatever economy the farms still had was true. I remember someone telling me how all manners and finesse disappeared. When you're in the grip of a thing like this and you know that someone's got food, you go and steal it. You'll even murder to get it. That's all part of the horror. How does one rank the famine of 1933 with other great catastrophes? I think it's very difficult to make a table of comparison. What I would say with complete truth and sincerity is that as a journalist over the last half century I have seen some pretty awful things. But the famine is the most terrible thing I have ever seen, precisely because of the deliberation with which it was done and the total absence of any sympathy with the people. To mention it or to sympathize with the people would mean to go to the Gulag, because then you were criticizing the great Stalin's project and indicating that you thought it a failure, when allegedly it was a stupendous success and enormously strengthened the Soviet Union. What sort of response did you encounter when you came back from the Soviet Union and published your findings, particularly from people close to you, like the Webbs.? The Webbs were furious about it. Mrs. Webb in her diary puts in a sentence which gives the whole show away. She says, "Malcolm has come back with stories about a terrible famine in the USSR. I have been to see Mr. Maisky (the Soviet ambassador in Britain) about it, and I realize that he's got it absolutely wrong." Who would suppose that Mr. Maisky would say, "No, no, of course he's right"? You published Winter in Moscow when you got back from the Soviet Union, and you were attacked in the press for your views. Very strongly. And I couldn't get a job. Why was that? Because people found your reports hard to believe? No, the press was not overtly pro-Soviet, but it was, as it is now, essentially sympathetic with that side and distrustful of any serious attack on it. How do you explain this sympathy? It's something I've written and thought about a great deal, and I think that the liberal mind is attracted by this sort of regime. My wife's aunt was Beatrice Webb, and she and Sidney Webb wrote the classic pro-Soviet book, Soviet Communism: A New Civilization. And so one saw close at hand the degree to which they all knew about the regime, knew all about the Cheka (the secret police) and everything, but they liked it. I think that those people believe in power. It was put to me very succinctly when we were taken down to Kharkiv for the opening of the Dnieper dam. There was an American colonel who was running it, building the dam in effect. "How do you like it here?" I asked him, thinking that I'd get a wonderful blast of him saying how he absolutely hated it. "I think it's wonderful," he said. "You never get any labor trouble." This will be one of the great puzzles of posterity in looking back on this age, to understand why the liberal mind, the Manchester Guardian mind, the New Republic mind, should feel such enormous sympathy with this authoritarian regime. You are implying that the liberal intelligentsia did not simply overlook the regime's brutality, but actually admired and liked it. Yes, I'm saying that, although they wouldn't have admitted it, perhaps not even to themselves. I remember Mrs. Webb, who after all was a very cultivated upper-class liberal-minded person, an early member of the Fabian Society and so on, saying to me, "Yes, it's true, people disappear in Russia." She said it with such great satisfaction that I couldn't help thinking that there were a lot of people in England whose disappearance she would have liked to organize. No, it's an everlasting mystery to me how one after the other, the intelligentsia of the Western world, the Americans, the Germans, even the French, fell for this thing to such an extraordinary degree. HOME: http://www.ukar.org/index.shtml ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nobody@mixmaster.it Thu Jun 5 11:50:57 EDT 2008 Article: 504754 of soc.culture.russian Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!news.mediascape.de!news.ainex.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news From: George Orwell Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish Subject: Richard Warman, Enemy Of Free Speech (comments) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:41:48 +0200 (CEST) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 9 Bytes: 1125 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.british:1204870 soc.culture.russian:504754 soc.culture.polish:874891 http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/ Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it From nobody@mixmaster.it Thu Jun 5 11:50:58 EDT 2008 Article: 504852 of soc.culture.russian Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!news.mediascape.de!news.ainex.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news From: George Orwell Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish Subject: EDWARD M. ROSEN 400 GLENDALE RD. #24E HAVERTON, PA 19083 Message-ID: <9fa1480cf11961893945417fd84708dc@mixmaster.it> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:25:06 +0200 (CEST) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 13 Bytes: 1216 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.british:1204960 soc.culture.russian:504852 soc.culture.polish:875081 EDWARD M. ROSEN 400 GLENDALE RD. #24E HAVERTON, PA 19083 USA DATE OF BIRTH: JUNE 17, 1953 SSN: 186-44-1491 Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it From nobody@mixmaster.it Thu Jun 5 11:50:58 EDT 2008 Article: 505024 of soc.culture.russian Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!news.exosphere.de!news2.arglkargh.de!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news From: George Orwell Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish Subject: Dying to Live Message-ID: <557a22cd2888a766c10530e770bd2427@mixmaster.it> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 08:10:10 +0200 (CEST) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 9 Bytes: 1076 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.british:1205097 soc.culture.russian:505024 soc.culture.polish:875298 http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/dying-to-live/ Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it From marekziemba@poczta.onet.pl Thu Jun 5 11:50:59 EDT 2008 Article: 504799 of soc.culture.russian Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Marek Maciej Ziemba Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,pl.regionalne.warszawa Subject: ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!! Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:16:46 -0600 Organization: Jew Watch Lines: 211 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 9279 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.russian:504799 soc.culture.ukrainian:116326 pl.regionalne.warszawa:508827 ZYDS = KRIMINALI! Te, który nie zdołał nauczyć się od przeszłych 2000 lat historii, będzie skazany, by powtórzyć historię. Pravda! Z teraz dodatek 51 dobrze udokumentował udowodnione przypadki ZHID KOLABORACJA Z NAZISTAMI, oprócz głośnego przypadku KASTNER, plus RUMKOWSKI, MUSI zapytać liczby HOLOHOAX!! Teraz nawet głośny Simon WIESENTHAL jest udowodniony, by być nazistowskim WSPÓłPRACOWNIK GESTAPO!! Dalej Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi < KenLevi@spiceland.org > napisał: > For przeszły 2000 lat, świat wycierpiał z powodu przeklętego > Christkiller ZHIDS. > Not tylko Kollaboraci ZHIDS z nazistami. > On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews < philmathews@comcast.net > > napisał: )Kenneth McVay,SOBC, dobrze znany papieros w Canada, )Haruj McVay Vancouver, skazanego dziecka molestującego )i kradzież samochodu w California i Oregon i nadal )bezrobotny chłopiec pompy gazowej, inicjator )Kanadyjska gałąź NAMBLA, chce, by wszystko wiedział )o wszystkich jego przestępcach faceta i zboczeńcach. )Tutaj jest zdjęciem Ken McVay, dyrektor WWW.NIZKOR.ORG -- ) On nie ma nieokrzesanego spojrzenia jako pasować na profil )osoba, która powiedziałaby ogólnie dotycząca porn dziecka: )" Jestem zmęczony widzenia zagadnienia " porn dziecka" przedmuch z )proporcja { I byłem włączony i dookoła Net od 1988 i )miej jeszcze, by spotkać się z czymś co I rozważyłbym "porn dziecka." ) Zobaczyłem zdjęcia nagich dzieci, ... i nie zdołaj widzieć )szkoda, albo jakieś wielkie moralne niebezpieczeństwo do naszego społeczeństwa)."? )http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg ) Każdy z wy chciałby zostawić tę osobę, Ken McVay, ) sam z twoimi dziećmi? )Od: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott) )Temat: W sprawie:ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI ZHID = KOLABORANCI ZYDOWSKY!!! )Grupy dyskusyjne: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw )Na Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy napisał: > Another znaczący artykuł, który zasługuje dyskusję!!! > On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI >< polhistsoc@earthlink.net > napisał: > > Chwileczka temu, na soc.kultura.nabierz połysku, > > Dr. J. Ilicki, profesor nadzwyczajny Sociology > > i Judaic badanie nad Upsalla University podnosiło > > pytanie Polish Polish w usłudze z > > Germans podczas zawodu Poland. Jedyny > > powód dla tego pytania w tym czasie wydaje się być > > jego potrzeba, by zmieszać hatered interethnic. Prowokacyjnie, > > Dr. którego Ilicki pyta: > > 1) kto był członkowie > > policje, ochotnicy albo rekruci?, > > 2) jaki był ich społeczny stan? > > 3) co stało się im po wojnie? > > Just zagrać zupełnie niewinny (i głupi) on też pyta > > dlaczego oni zostali zawołani Granatowa (ciemnego - granatowy niebieskiego) Police. > > Only naiwny uwierzą tego Prof. Ilicki nie robi > > wiedzą odpowiedzi. > > Also tylko naiwny uwierzą, że on nie jest zainteresowany > > w Pinsk hometown jego rodziców i rzekomo > > miejsce pogrzebu jego dziadka i ponad > > 30,000 pinksers (Jews od Pinsk). On admitte > > że jego matka spisała ich jak zabity tam z > > Yad Vashem. Jednakże, młody (około 40 letnich) > > Julian udaje się disintrest, ponieważ on boi się że > > ekshumacje mogłyby zacząć się w domniemanym miejscu pogrzebu > > i nie znajdą żadnych szkieletów jako to sam zdarzyło się ostatniemu > > rok w pobliskim Mariompole, niebawem w Lithuania. > > But wracając do Dr Illicki pytanie: Polscy Police > > podczas German zawodu dramatycznie został zmniejszony > > w numerach i przedwojenni policjanci zostali zmuszeni by > > służ jako siła auxillary do German Ordnung Polizei. > > They nie byli ususally nie zbrojonym i kiedy nie zbrojonym nigdy > > dany więcej niż pięć kuli dla ich długich karabinów. > > Moreover, po każdym użyciu broni palna oni > > ( jak również Ukraininan Police) musiał napisać > > sprawozdanie dla jakiego celu każda kula została użyta > > i z jakim effectivness, ledwie zaproszenie do > > ludobójstwo. >>>>>> Hardly prawda do historii Pawlikowski także. > > Z drugiej strony była policja w > > Third Reich, w którym usługa była zupełnie > > dobrowolny. To zostało zawołane Ordnungdienst. Ich > > emblemat był lekkim Star stopu David. The > > społeczne tło tych Jewish współpracowników > > według Iasaiah Trunk był jak następuje: 18% > > z podyplomowymi stopniami, 60% z stopniem college'u, > > 20% z elementarną edukacją. Te są dane > > od samo - służyć, powojennego questionaries. > > But nawet Trunk umożliwia, że w Warsaw > > wymaganie było, że KAżDY Jewish policjant > > ma co najmniej matura (dwa lata college'u) > > zobacz stronę 489 jego książki. W praktyce , > > Jewish policjanci byli wszystkimi prawnikami i > > dziennikarz z dniem German > > zawód natychmiast został strzelany od > > ich prace, jak Polish nauczyciele, ponieważ > > szkoły zostały zamknięte. > Usługa była dobrowolna. Weź pracę i utrzymaj się > twoje życie mało dłużej albo teraz umrzyj! > Pawlikowski zapomniał jak Soviets zostali wzięty do wojska. > Under Stalin oni biegli, by zwerbować spodziewać się uniknąć będącego > zabił w potem "przeniesienie"! > > While Polish nauczyciele dołączyli do podziemnego, > > bezrobotny Jewish intelligentia krzyknął dla policyjnej pracy. > > Tych trochę było naprawdę straszne jako pamiętasz > > od naszego poprzedniego opisu Feb. 1942 > > wykonanie na miejscu targu Rybna w Lodz. > > German kronika filmowa tego okropnego wiszenie jest pokazane > > przejście w Wiesenthal Museum w LA. Tysiące > > Jews stających i patrzących za trzema > > uniformed Germans z ich popierać i holstered > > pistolety stające wobec Jewish tłumu i około być hanged > > kobiety mdlejące i zmusił do > > pętla przez Jewish Policemen. > > ------------- > > Jozef Pawlikowski > Herman Pierwszy, zabijmy wszystkich prawników! - W. Shakespeare Pierwszy, pozbywamy się wszystkich polityków! - Mao Tse Dung Prawnicy, politycy i sędziowie potrzebują zostać powtórzony - jako nawóz!! Mnie Jeśli wierzysz w PRAWDĘ i PRAWIE, wtedy bywa www.freedomsite.org Prawnicy, politycy i sędziowie potrzebują zostać powtórzony - jako nawóz!! "Jednocześnie uniwersalnego oszustwa - mówiąc prawdę jest rewolucyjny czyn." (George Orwell) David Icke - "...i prawda uwolni ciebie" "Wszystkie przepustki prawdy przez trzy sceny. Pierwszy, to jest ośmieszone, drugi to gwałtownie jest sprzeciwione, i trzeci, to jest przyjęte jako jednobarwny oczywisty." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "Ludzie powodu są uciszeni nie jest, ponieważ oni rozmawiają fałszywie, ale, ponieważ oni mówią prawdę. To jest, ponieważ, jeśli ludzie rozmawiają kłamstwa, ich własne słowa mogą zostać użyte przeciw oni; chwila jeśli oni rozmawiają naprawdę, nie ma niczego, które może zostać użyte przeciw oni - oprócz siły." - John Bryant "Aby usiłować uciszyć człowieka ma zapłacić jemu hołd, ponieważ to jest uznanie, że jego argumenty są oba niemożliwe by odpowiedzieć i niemożliwy, by ignorować." John Bryant TOLERANCJA jest cnotą człowieka BEZ przekonań. G. K. Chesterton. Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedź światową najlepszy ocenioną stronę internetową dla JEW - WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Teraz z więcej dowodem wychodzącym udowadniającym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z NAZIŚCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz sławnego przypadku Kastner - nic dziwne ludzie dookoła świata naprawdę nie lubią Christkiller ZHIDS!! Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawierają: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press, Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Albo, odwiedź stronę internetową dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA : http://www.natall.com Oni mają dużo informacji, jak również książki i zapisy. Odpowiedz -: Szczery Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com Czuć się swobodnie , by zaprenumerować nas do maillists dla płci, homoseksualistów i Bewaehrt Euch vor die verfluechte Juden. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:50:59 EDT 2008 Article: 504736 of soc.culture.russian Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,alt.politics.europe,soc.culture.europe Subject: ZYDS Plan to Take Over Russia, Again!! Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:21:20 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 155 Message-ID: <76k244l7d48c0plm8u4k7rk5q9kn2n2ogg@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 7872 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.russian:504736 alt.politics.europe:78865 soc.culture.europe:614048 From: "Venceremos" Subject: ONCE AGAIN ZYD PLOTS A RUSSIAN REVOLUTION-Like 1917? RUSSIA BEWARE, BORIS AND MOISHE ARE GOING FOR THE THROAT,again! 'I am plotting a new Russian revolution' London exile ZYD Berezovsky says force necessary to bring down President Putin Ian Cobain and Matthew Taylor and Luke Harding in Moscow Friday April 13, 2007 The Guardian The Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky has told the Guardian he is plotting the violent overthrow of President Putin from his base in Britain after forging close contacts with members of Russia's ruling elite. In comments which appear calculated to enrage the Kremlin, and which will further inflame relations between London and Moscow, the multimillionaire claimed he was already bankrolling people close to the president who are conspiring to mount a palace coup. "We need to use force to change this regime," he said. "It isn't possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be no change without force, pressure." Asked if he was effectively fomenting a revolution, he said: "You are absolutely correct." Although Mr Berezovsky, with an estimated fortune of Ł850m, may have the means to finance such a plot, and although he enjoyed enormous political influence in Russia before being forced into exile, he said he could not provide details to back up his claims because the information was too sensitive. Last night the Kremlin denounced Mr Berezovsky's comments as a criminal offence which it believed should undermine his refugee status in the UK. Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin's chief spokesman, said: "In accordance with our legislation [his remarks are] being treated as a crime. It will cause some questions from the British authorities to Mr Berezovsky. We want to believe that official London will never grant asylum to someone who wants to use force to change the regime in Russia." It will not be the first time the British government has faced accusations from the Kremlin that it is providing a safe haven for Mr Berezovsky. When he told a Moscow radio station last year that he wanted to see Mr Putin overthrown by force, Jack Straw, then foreign secretary, told the Commons that "advocating the violent overthrow of a sovereign state is unacceptable" and warned the tycoon he could be stripped of his refugee status. Russian authorities subsequently sent an extradition request to London. That failed, however, when a district judge ruled Mr Berezovsky could not be extradited as long as he has asylum status. In an interview with the Guardian, however, Mr Berezovsky goes much further than before, claiming to be in close contact with members of Russia's political elite who, he says, share his view that Mr Putin is damaging Russia by rolling back democratic reforms, smothering opposition, centralising power and flouting the country's constitution. "There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections," he says. "If one part of the political elite disagrees with another part of the political elite - that is the only way in Russia to change the regime. I try to move that." While declining to describe these contacts - and alleging that they would be murdered if they were identified - he maintained that he was offering his "experience and ideology" to members of the country's political elite, as well as "my understanding of how it could be done". He added: "There are also practical steps which I am doing now, and mostly it is financial." Mr Berezovsky said he was unconcerned by any threat to strip him of his refugee status. "Straw wasn't in a position to take that decision. A judge in court said it wasn't in the jurisdiction of Straw." He added that there was even less chance of such a decision being taken following the polonium-210 poisoning last November of his former employee, Alexander Litvinenko. "Today the reality is different because of the Litvinenko case." Mr Berezovsky, 61, a former mathematician, turned to business during the Yeltsin years and made his fortune by capturing state assets at knockdown prices during Russia's rush towards privatisation. Although he played a key role in ensuring Mr Putin's victory in the 2000 presidential elections, the two men fell out as the newly elected leader successfully wrested control of Russia back from the so-called oligarchy, the small group of tycoons who had come to dominate the country's economy. A few months after the election Mr Berezovsky fled Russia, and applied successfully for asylum in the UK after Mr Litvinenko, an officer with the KGB's successor, the FSB, came forward to say he had been ordered to murder the tycoon. Mr Berezovsky changed his name to Platon Elenin, Platon being the name of a character in a Russian film based loosely upon his life. He was subsequently given a British passport in this name. As well as claiming to be financing and encouraging coup plotters in Moscow, Mr Berezovsky said he had dedicated much of the last six years to "trying to destroy the positive image of Putin" that many in the west held, portraying him whenever possible as a dangerously anti- democratic figure. He said he had also opposed the Russian president through Kommersant, the influential Russian newspaper which he controlled until last year. Last month Mr Berezovsky was questioned by two detectives from the Russian prosecutor general's office who were in London to investigate the death of Mr Litvinenko. He has denied claims that he refused to answer many of their questions. Last night the Kremlin said Russian authorities might want to question him again in the light of his interview with the Guardian. "I now believe our prosecutor general's office has got lots of questions for Mr Berezovsky," said Mr Peskov. He added: "His words are very interesting. This is a very sensitive issue." The Foreign Office said it had nothing to add to Mr Straw's comments of last year. For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. 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From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:50:59 EDT 2008 Article: 504994 of soc.culture.russian Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.russian Subject: Ukraine Marks 75th Anniversary of ZYD/Soviet-era Famine That Claimed 10 Million 1/2 Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:40:47 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 505 Message-ID: <93ib44d57gotqb973jl7lraq04n5fts5if@4ax.com> References: <4666-456D6D99-20@storefull-3331.bay.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 26705 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.ukrainian:116335 soc.culture.europe:614238 soc.culture.russian:504994 HOLODOMOR - The Forgiven Holocaust of 1932-33 1932 1933 YEARS OF ARTIFICIAL FAMINE IN UKRAINE CREATED BY THE MUSCOVITE OCCUPIERS = Christkiller ZYDS Ran NKVD ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PICTURE: http://www.ukar.org/famine01.gif (Oksana Procyk, Leonid Heretz, and James E. Mace, Famine in the Soviet Ukraine 1932-1933: A Memorial Exhibition, Widener Library Harvard University, Harvard University Press, Cambridge Massachusetts, 1986, p. 71) In selecting documents for inclusion in the Famine Archive, I have adhered to the general Ukrainian Archive policy of allowing room for opposing points of view. In order for an accurate picture of the Famine to emerge, it is essential that opposing arguments be recognized and either confirmed or disconfirmed; and if, upon occasion, descriptions of the Ukrainian famine have been inaccurate, then having this pointed out by critics constitutes a valuable contribution toward arriving at a true account. To fear and to inhibit opposing arguments, or the correction of errors, might seem necessary only to those who worry that the Ukrainian Terror Famine has never occurred, or who fear that permitting corrections will cast the entire story into doubt. But such worries and fears are groundless. Errors, contradictions, exaggerations — all of these enter in to cloud our perception of every historical event, and to expect otherwise with respect to the Ukrainian Terror Famine would be unrealistic. Therefore, where criticism of certain Famine accounts is warranted, the criticism must be greeted as providing a useful guide as to how to improve the quality of future accounts. Where any inaccuracies have been introduced by the press, then this might be taken as an indication that the press needs to be both monitored and educated. Where inaccuracies have been introduced by writers contracted primarily because of their fame, then this might be taken as a warning that buying fame is not the same as buying historical fidelity. Finally, in the case where facts are simply created out of thin air by Soviet or Russian representatives, then a sampling of even this too is not inappropriate — or else the reader would be left with no awareness that any dispute is possible, and so would go out into the world less prepared for the disinformation that he is certain to meet there. http://www.ukar.org/famine06.htm Collectivization and the famine BY BOHDAN KRAWCHENKO UKRAINE FAMINE 1933 Special Edition issued by the Ukrainian Canadian Committee Edmonton Branch October 14, 1983 In 1932 and 1933 millions of people in Ukraine died of hunger. Unlike most famines, the one in Ukraine was not caused by some natural calamity or crop failure, but was man-made. The 1920s — "Golden Era" The peasantry — about 80 per cent of Ukraine's population — had fought pitched battles against landlords during the 1917 revolution to realize its age-old dream of owning land. When in 1918-19 the Bolsheviks occupied Ukraine and made their first bid to collectivize peasant land, the Ukrainian peasants resisted so fiercely that Lenin ordered "severe punishment" for any Bolshevik who preached collectivization. During the 1920s, peasants organized voluntary cooperatives and agriculture thrived. In this period the Ukrainian people forced the Bolsheviks to change their nationality policy. The Ukrainian language displaced Russian in education, state administration and the mass media. Ukrainians were recruited into the party and government. Within the Communist Party of Ukraine there developed a powerful Ukrainian wing which demanded an end to Russian domination in economic and political life. Stalin's policies in 1929 brought the "golden era" to an end Collectivization In 1928 Stalin suddenly announced accelerated industrialization in the form of the first five-year plan. The plan was hastily put together and, as a result, billions of rubles were wasted. By 1930 it became clear that Stalin's government was running out of funds. Rather than rethink economic strategies, Stalin ordered more grain to be squeezed out of the peasantry. The quickest method of accomplishing this, according to Stalin, was to establish collective farms by expropriating all peasant land, grain reserves and livestock without compensation. Also, collective farms would have to turn over all their produce to the state. Interestingly enough, when the Nazis occupied Ukraine, they did not abolish collective farms: they appreciated this finely tuned instrument for the exploitation of the peasantry. In Ukraine, collectivization had another aim: to "destroy the social basis of Ukrainian nationalism — individual peasant agriculture," according to the Soviet newspaper Proletarska Pravda, (22.1.1930). It was in 1930 as well that Stalin ordered the first of a series of purges of Ukrainian cultural and political figures — all part and parcel of a program to roll back the achievements of the national revival of the 1920s. The campaign against kulaks An essential component of forced collectivization, according to Stalin, was the "elimination of kulaks as a class." The word kulak conjures up an image of a wealthy, grasping peasant. The reality had little in common with the myth. In the 1920s there were laws banning the sale and purchase of land and of its rent. Land was distributed on the basis of the size of the peasant family. Some peasant households did, of course, own more land than others. But these households also had larger families to support. Compare the richest kulak in Ukraine with an industrial worker. In the mid-1920s the average annual income per working peasant in the richest peasant farm in Ukraine (comprising about 30 acres) was 200 rubles. The average worker, by contrast, made 521 rubles a year and received many social-security benefits which were not available to the peasantry. When the campaign against kulaks began, the Soviet regime was at a loss for a definition of the term and produced an arbitrary set of criteria. For example, a household owning a motor of any kind was classified as belonging to the kulak category. Neither were kulaks those who hired labor. As the Russian demographer M. Maksudov has shown, the majority of those employing labor in the countryside were invalids of the First World War and the revolution, widows and families with few children. The campaign against kulaks, therefore, had little to do with economic considerations. "Dekulakization" was intended to rid the countryside of peasants (irrespective of their material standing) who were most likely to organize and lead resistance to forced collectivization. According to official Soviet surveys, Ukraine had 71,500 kulak households in 1929. But according to official Soviet sources, between 1930 and 1932, 200,000 kulak households or one million people were "eliminated." The plan for the destruction of kulaks was overfulfilled by almost 200 per cent. The deportations Those who resisted collectivization were either executed or sent to prison camps and their families were deported to Siberia or the Russian Arctic circle. Peasant activists were deported with their families to the northern regions of Russian. Here is what some eyewitnesses wrote about their experiences: "Barefooted and poorly clad peasants were jammed into railroad cars and transported to the regions of Murmansk and the like. Peasants were unloaded into snow about two metres deep. The frost stood at 75 degrees below zero. Without even an axe or a saw we began building huts from tree branches. In two weeks all the children, the sick and the elderly had frozen to death." The death rate among Ukrainian peasants deported to the Sverdlovsk region in Russia was typical: only 2,300 of the original group of 4,800 survived the winter. The suffering during the deportations was terrible enough, yet it pales in comparison with what happened during the famine of 1932-33. Grain requisition campaigns By the spring of 1930 peasant resistance to collectivization had reached such proportions that Stalin panicked and ordered a temporary retreat. In an article entitled "Dizzy with Success," he admitted that excesses had occurred and falsely pinned the entire blame on local officials. Moreover, he reassured the peasants that membership in collective farms henceforth would be "voluntary." In the spring of 1930 there occurred a mass exodus of peasants from collective farms. Thinking that Stalin's regime had learned its lesson, peasants worked with a will and brought in an excellent harvest — 23.1 million (metric) tons of grain. But in the autumn of 1930 Stalin again changed course. He ordered the drive for collectivization to be resumed and the maximum amount of grain to be taken out of Ukraine. A third of the harvest, or 7.7 million tons of grain, was taken by the state. The renewed collectivization drive produced chaos in agricultural production. The peasantry was given no incentive to produce. By the end of 1930, for example, 78 per cent of collective farms in Ukraine had failed to pay peasants for the days that they had worked. Ironically, peasants' payment in Ukraine (in kilos of food produce) was half what it was in Russia. Reassured by his success of 1930, Stalin ordered the 1931 quota for grain delivery to the state to be set at the same level — 7.7 million tons. The 1931 harvest, however — 18.3 million tons of grain — was 20 per cent smaller than in 1930. Almost 30 per cent of the harvest was lost because of the breakdown of the transportation system. Intent on exporting grain to finance industrialization, Stalin ordered that it be requisitioned whatever the cost to the peasantry. By the early spring of 1932, 7 million tons had been taken. The amount was so great that the republic was short of seed grain by 45 per cent. Ukrainian officials knew that if the rate of grain requisitioning continued, famine would break out. They argued with Moscow for a major downward revision of Ukraine's agricultural obligations for 1932. M. Skrypnyk, Commissar of Education, in July 1932 recounted how, while touring the Ukrainian countryside, he had heard from peasants that "we had everything taken away from us but the broom." V. Chubar, head of the Ukrainian government, insisted that neither the peasants nor his administration were at fault for the agricultural crisis, but that it was due to the unrealistic plans of Moscow. Stalin did lower the amount of grain to be requisitioned in 1932 to 6.2 million tons, but this was still far above the capacities of the Ukraine in view of that year's poor harvest — 14.6 tons. Neither did Stalin relax the collectivization drive and, as a result, agriculture was plagued by chaos. Millions of tons of grain were lost. Tightening the noose Moscow sent a special mission, accompanied by troops, to oversee the 1932 grain requisition. Collective farms stopped distributing food to peasants. For example, according to official statistics, only five per cent of collective farms in Dnipropetrovsk province handed out food produce for days worked in 1932. To prevent peasants from feeding themselves by taking collective farm produce, a law was passed in August 1932 stipulating the death penalty, and under exceptional circumstances, a ten-year sentence in labor camps for "theft of socialist property." Thus, it was reported in the Soviet press (Visti, 10.11.1932) that the Dnipropetrovsk court had sentenced a group of hungry peasants to the firing squad for the theft of a sack of wheat. An obligatory delivery system was established for each collective farm. The harvest was organized in the form of a military operation, with soldiers guarding grain from the peasants. Officials and peasants who did not fulfill their quotas were treated in accordance with the infamous August 1932 decree. On 17 December 1932 regulations were tightened even further. A complete economic blockade was ordered of villages that did not fulfil their obligations to the state: all trade, all shipments of food and consumer goods, whatever their source, were prohibited. Officials, wrote Malcolm Muggeridge, "had gone over the country like a swarm of locusts and taken away everything edible; they shot and exiled thousands of peasants, sometimes whole villages; they have reduced some of the most fertile land in the whole world to a melancholy desert." Could have been avoided The famine finally subsided in 1934, when the 1933 harvest was brought in. This was because, in the spring of 1933, Moscow "lent" Ukraine seed grain. Moscow also reduced the quantity of grain to be delivered to the state to five million tons, about one-quarter of the 1933 harvest. Soviet officials today deny that the famine took place, although they do admit that there were problems due to drought. If that was the case, then Ukraine should have suffered a famine in 1934, not in 1932-33. The 1934 harvest was the worst in many years — 12.3 million tons. But there was no famine in 1934 because Stalin reduced the amount of grain from existing stocks to feed the population. He could have done this in 1932-33, but he did not. Instead, he deliberately exported 1.7 million tons of grain to the West to pay for industrial equipment. The offers of international relief organizations to assist the starving in Ukraine were rejected by the Soviet government on the grounds that there was no famine, hence no need to aid its victims. The borders of Ukraine were closely patrolled and starving Ukrainian peasants were not allowed to cross into Russia in search of bread. The toll How many millions perished? Harry Lang, editor of the left-wing Jewish daily Forward, published in New York, visited Ukraine in 1933 and was told by a high-ranking state official that six million people had perished from the famine. Other estimates range from 6.5 to 8.5 million. We will never know the exact number. We do know that according to the 1926 Soviet population census there were 31.2 million Ukrainians in the U.S.S.R. According to the 1939 Soviet census this number had dropped by 3.1 million to 28.1 million. (There was no emigration from the Soviet Ukraine in this period.) Over a 13-year period, according to Soviet statistics, the number of Ukrainians had diminished by 11 per cent. The population of the U.S.S.R., on the other hand, increased by 16 per cent and the number of Russians by 28 per cent. A national tragedy When the Ukrainian peasantry was under attack in 1932-33, Ukrainian political and cultural leaders sprang to their defense. Ewald Ammende, a German eyewitness who analysed this question, wrote in 1936: "The widest circle of the Ukrainian intelligentsia had entered the struggle: teachers, students, Soviet officials, all thought it was their duty to protest against a further sucking dry of their country.... The Soviet regime was faced by a united people, a solid front, including everyone from the highest Soviet officials down to the poorest peasants." Ukrainian cultural and political leaders paid a heavy price for refusing to become unwilling agents in the extermination of their own people. In 1933, at the height of the famine, a massive purge was ordered in Ukraine. As P. Postyshev, Stalin's henchman in Ukraine, pointed out, "almost all people removed were arrested and put before the firing squad." The purge continued virtually uninterrupted until 1938, claiming the lives of 80 per cent of Ukraine's creative intelligentsia. Thousands of priests of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church were killed, as were that church's 35 bishops. The desire to stamp out a Ukrainian national consciousness was so extreme that, according to the famous Russian composer, Dmitrii Shostakovich, several hundred blind bandurysty — itinerant folk singers — were executed. Hundreds of thousands of party members were shot. The purge was so thorough that by 1938 not a single secretary of the Council of the People's Commissars in Ukraine (the cabinet), not even a single deputy of Ukraine's parliament, the Supreme Soviet, was left. The purges were intended to deal a devastating blow to the existence of Ukrainians as a nation. At the 20th Party Congress in 1956 Khrushchev said Stalin had even considered deporting all Ukrainians to Siberia, but "there were too many of them and there was no place to which to deport them." With the famine and the purges, Stalin had come as close to destroying a nation as his unrestrained power would permit. http://www.ukar.org/famine07.htm Stalin's Famine in Ukraine MALCOLM MUGGERIDGE UKRAINE FAMINE 1933 Special Edition issued by the Ukrainian Canadian Committee Edmonton Branch October 14, 1983 "The novelty of this particular famine, what made it so diabolical, is that it was the deliberate creation of a bureaucratic mind, without any consideration whatever of the consequences of human suffering," Malcolm Muggeridge said. He was talking about the genocidal famine that swept Ukraine in the winter on 1932 and the spring and summer of 1933. Muggeridge was there that terrible winter and spring. As a correspondent for the Manchester Guardian in Moscow, he was one of the few Western journalists who circumvented Soviet restrictions and visited the famine regions and then honestly reported what he had seen. Marco Carynnyk talked to Muggeridge at his cottage in Sussex, England. Why did you decide to write about the famine in Ukraine? It was the big story in all our talks in Moscow. Everybody knew about it. There was no question about that. Anyone you were talking to knew that there was a terrible famine going on. Even in the Soviets' own pieces there were somewhat disguised acknowledgements of great difficulties there. I realized that that was the big story. I could also see that all the correspondents in Moscow were distorting it. Without making any kind of plans or asking for permission I just went and got a ticket for Kiev and then went on to Rostov. The Soviet security is not as good as people think it is. If you once duck it, you can go quite a long way. At least you could in those days. Going through the countryside by train one could sense the state of affairs. Ukraine was starving, and you only had to venture out to smaller places to see derelict fields and abandoned villages. On one occasion, I was changing trains, and I went wandering around, and in one of the trains in the station, the kulaks were being loaded onto the train, and there were military men all along the platform. I'll tell you another thing that's more difficult to convey, but it impressed me enormously. It was on a Sunday in Kiev, and I went into the church there for the Orthodox mass. I could understand very little of it, but there was some spirit in it that I have never come across before or after. Human beings at the end of their tether were saying to God, "We come to you, we're in trouble, nobody by You can help us." What were you thinking and, more importantly perhaps, what were you feeling when you saw those scenes of starvation and privation in Ukraine? How does one respond in such a situation? First of all, one feels a deep, deep, deep sympathy with and pity for the sufferers. Human beings look very tragic when they are starving. And remember that I wasn't unaware of what things were like because in India, for instance, I've been in a village during a cholera epidemic and seen people similarly placed. So it wasn't a complete novelty. The novelty of this particular famine, what made it so diabolical, is that it was not the result of some catastrophe like a drought or an epidemic. It was the deliberate creation of a bureaucratic mind which demanded the collectivization of agriculture, immediately, as a purely theoretical proposition, without any consideration whatever of the consequences in human suffering. That was what I found so terrifying. Think of a man in an office who has been ordered to collectivize agriculture and get rid of the kulaks without any clear notion or definition of what a kulak is, and who has in what was then the GPU and is now the KGB the instrument for doing this, and who then announces it in the slavish press as one of the great triumphs of the regime. Given the deliberate nature of the famine in Ukraine, given the fact that food continued to be stockpiled and exported even as people dropped dead on the streets, is it accurate to talk about this as a famine? Is it perhaps something else? How does one describe an event of such magnitude? Perhaps you do need another word. I don't know what it would be. The word ‘famine' means people have nothing whatsoever to eat and consume things that are not normally consumed. Of course there were stories of cannibalism there. I don't know whether they were true, but they were very widely believed. Certainly the eating of cattle and the consequent complete destruction of whatever economy the farms still had was true. I remember someone telling me how all manners and finesse disappeared. When you're in the grip of a thing like this and you know that someone's got food, you go and steal it. You'll even murder to get it. That's all part of the horror. How does one rank the famine of 1933 with other great catastrophes? I think it's very difficult to make a table of comparison. What I would say with complete truth and sincerity is that as a journalist over the last half century I have seen some pretty awful things. But the famine is the most terrible thing I have ever seen, precisely because of the deliberation with which it was done and the total absence of any sympathy with the people. To mention it or to sympathize with the people would mean to go to the Gulag, because then you were criticizing the great Stalin's project and indicating that you thought it a failure, when allegedly it was a stupendous success and enormously strengthened the Soviet Union. What sort of response did you encounter when you came back from the Soviet Union and published your findings, particularly from people close to you, like the Webbs.? The Webbs were furious about it. Mrs. Webb in her diary puts in a sentence which gives the whole show away. She says, "Malcolm has come back with stories about a terrible famine in the USSR. I have been to see Mr. Maisky (the Soviet ambassador in Britain) about it, and I realize that he's got it absolutely wrong." Who would suppose that Mr. Maisky would say, "No, no, of course he's right"? You published Winter in Moscow when you got back from the Soviet Union, and you were attacked in the press for your views. Very strongly. And I couldn't get a job. Why was that? Because people found your reports hard to believe? No, the press was not overtly pro-Soviet, but it was, as it is now, essentially sympathetic with that side and distrustful of any serious attack on it. How do you explain this sympathy? It's something I've written and thought about a great deal, and I think that the liberal mind is attracted by this sort of regime. My wife's aunt was Beatrice Webb, and she and Sidney Webb wrote the classic pro-Soviet book, Soviet Communism: A New Civilization. And so one saw close at hand the degree to which they all knew about the regime, knew all about the Cheka (the secret police) and everything, but they liked it. I think that those people believe in power. It was put to me very succinctly when we were taken down to Kharkiv for the opening of the Dnieper dam. There was an American colonel who was running it, building the dam in effect. "How do you like it here?" I asked him, thinking that I'd get a wonderful blast of him saying how he absolutely hated it. "I think it's wonderful," he said. "You never get any labor trouble." This will be one of the great puzzles of posterity in looking back on this age, to understand why the liberal mind, the Manchester Guardian mind, the New Republic mind, should feel such enormous sympathy with this authoritarian regime. You are implying that the liberal intelligentsia did not simply overlook the regime's brutality, but actually admired and liked it. Yes, I'm saying that, although they wouldn't have admitted it, perhaps not even to themselves. I remember Mrs. Webb, who after all was a very cultivated upper-class liberal-minded person, an early member of the Fabian Society and so on, saying to me, "Yes, it's true, people disappear in Russia." She said it with such great satisfaction that I couldn't help thinking that there were a lot of people in England whose disappearance she would have liked to organize. No, it's an everlasting mystery to me how one after the other, the intelligentsia of the Western world, the Americans, the Germans, even the French, fell for this thing to such an extraordinary degree. HOME: http://www.ukar.org/index.shtml ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nobody@mixmaster.it Thu Jun 5 11:51:53 EDT 2008 Article: 702898 of soc.culture.palestine Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.buerger.net!news.exosphere.de!news2.arglkargh.de!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news From: George Orwell Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam,soc.culture.palestine,alt.politics Subject: GARY A. RUMAIN, SILVER SPRING, MD 20910 USA Message-ID: <1f84c29c966981e56b45de56311323df@mixmaster.it> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 17 Bytes: 1205 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.religion.islam:1514854 soc.culture.palestine:702898 alt.politics:3949039 GARY A. RUMAIN (Born 1964) 8112 GROVE ST SILVER SPRING, MD 20910, USA (301) 565-9746 SUSAN E. COHEN (Born 1962) 8112 GROVE ST SILVER SPRING, MD 20910 USA (301) 565-9746 Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it From nobody@mixmaster.it Thu Jun 5 11:51:53 EDT 2008 Article: 703141 of soc.culture.palestine Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeeder.dynfx.net!weretis.net!news.exosphere.de!news2.arglkargh.de!news.dizum.com!sewer-output!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news From: George Orwell Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.palestine,alt.politics Subject: Zionist, Cannibalistic =?iso-8859-1?Q?=93Recipe=94?= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 05:20:08 +0200 (CEST) Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Lines: 9 Bytes: 1143 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com talk.politics.mideast:1020901 soc.culture.palestine:703141 alt.politics:3952785 http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe/ Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it From emiltheidiot@marathonsrun.org Thu Jun 5 11:51:54 EDT 2008 Article: 702557 of soc.culture.palestine Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Emil Tirades Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.palestine Subject: ZYD/Jew Diplomat Was Child Molester!! Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:28:04 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 34 Message-ID: <1l23449nrpqn25a1nh81tcijfprtnhv247@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 2170 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2346202 soc.culture.europe:614061 soc.culture.palestine:702557 ZYD "DIPLOMAT" WAS A POOFTER & CHILD MOLESTER! On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:14:51 -0400, in soc.culture.usa "serwad" wrote: Provided By: The Associated Press Last Modified: 9/1/2006 12:38:12 PM ATLANTA (AP) -- An employee of Israel's consulate in Atlanta was arrested Thursday on charges that he used the Internet to try to lure a minor into having sex. Yosef Sagiv Ofri was indicted by a grand jury in Columbia County yesterday. District Attorney Daniel Craig of Augusta says the 37-year-old Ofri was arrested at about 7:30 a.m. outside his home in DeKalb County, near Atlanta. Craig says authorities also obtained a warrant to search Ofri's home, according to a statement from Craig's office. The indictment says that Ofri used e-mail and online messages to lure a child >from Columbia County-about two hours east of Atlanta-for "illegal acts relating to sodomy, aggravated sodomy, child molestation and aggravated child molestation." Captain Steve Morris of the Columbia County Sheriff's office said Ofri works for the Israeli Consulate in Atlanta. He said officials from the consulate visited with Ofri today at the county's detention center, where he is being held. The Jerusalem Post reports that Ofri is a security officer with the consulate and carries an Israeli diplomatic passport. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:51:54 EDT 2008 Article: 702558 of soc.culture.palestine Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!! Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:29:33 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 119 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 5980 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.jewish:1940103 alt.revisionism:1911465 soc.culture.palestine:702558 Mcvay and his one fag so-called business Nizkor, [where only fag McVay gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada! Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his money laundering! Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities. With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover, including from those donors who supported all the criminality!! No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam! Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and money being laundered: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1 Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1 Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122 Message-ID: Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT Two Companion pieces to the above: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1 (Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6) Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822 Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com> Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT ------------------------------AND------------------------------- http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!) Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1 Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227 Message-ID: Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam V2.0 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.) If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:51:55 EDT 2008 Article: 702568 of soc.culture.palestine Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.palestine Subject: German academics: Enough of special treatment for Israel Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:17:10 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 96 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 5121 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:614075 soc.culture.german:344305 soc.culture.palestine:702568 German academics: Enough of special treatment for Israel. Immer die verfluechte Juden! On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:24:18 -0500, in soc.culture.europe Defendario wrote: Twenty five influential academics post petition calling on government to stop embracing Israel because of Holocaust, start embracing Palestinians as well Eldad Beck Published: 11.16.06, 09:33 BERLIN – Twenty five German academics published a petition Wednesday urging their government to loosen its embrace of Israel and start embracing Palestinians in an unprecedented act in the history of the relationship between Germany and Israel. The academics in question are highly influential professors at the country’s leading universities which were mainly funded by the German government. Many of them are known for their anti-Israel stances. The academics called on the German government to stop giving “special treatment” to Israel following the Holocaust and warned that the sympathetic attitude could lead to unrest amidst the German people. The petition was recently published in the German based journal Frankfurter Rundschau owned by the Dumont Schauberg publishing house. The company recently purchased 25 percent of Haaretz’s stocks. The 25 petition signers called on a change in the character of the relationship between Israel and Germany, which would lead the two countries to have a “friendship free from past burdens,” one which would leave room for expressing criticism of Israel. According to the academics, the Holocaust binds Germany to not only stand by Israel, but to also stand by the Palestinians. They said this was important since the ramifications of the Holocaust lead to much suffering for the Palestinians over the past 60 years. Germany obligated to stand exclusively by Israel? The petition said, “A large part of the German society has turned the shame and grief of the Holocaust into a ceremonial matter. That is how a problematic philo-Semitism has developed in Germany.” “The roots of this 60 year bloody confrontation in the Middle East are German and European. The Palestinian population has doesn’t have the responsibility to take on some of Europe’s problems in the Middle East,” the petition continued. Those who signed the petition expressed criticism of the “special” relationship between the two countries which lead to Germany providing Israel with advanced military technologies, even when Israel had violated international law and violated human rights. The academics questioned whether Germany was obligated to stand exclusively by Israel in the Middle East in light of the Holocaust, and wondered about the whether preserving the relationship would have consequences on the German people, particularly between Jews and Muslims. “Each new attack on Israeli citizens and each disproportional action by the IDF and Israel’s government reinforce the polarization in Germany between those in favor of Israel and those against it in terrifying measures. Such an atmosphere makes an open public dialogue on the questions we raised extremely crucial," the petition said. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3328858,00.html For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:51:55 EDT 2008 Article: 702918 of soc.culture.palestine Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.palestine Subject: UK ZYDS/Jews say anti-Semitism is major factor in aliya Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:27:52 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 167 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 8469 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com uk.politics.misc:2375075 soc.culture.swiss:58833 soc.culture.palestine:702918 UK Jews say anti-Semitism is major factor in aliya On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:40:04 +0100, in soc.culture.europe "Osric" wrote: DEAR LEADER BOLUDOVSKY wrote: > UK Jews say anti-Semitism is major factor in aliya > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hilary Leila Krieger, THE JERUSALEM POST Aug. 17, 2006 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Anti-Semitic attitudes in the UK are a leading factor in encouraging > aliya for British Jews, according to many of those who arrived here > Wednesday. > Some 140 Britons, 140 Canadians and 240 Americans touched down > together at Ben-Gurion Airport on flights sponsored by Nefesh > B'Nefesh in partnership with the Jewish Agency. > The trip from Stansted was the first from the UK, and came amid a > backdrop of heightened security following arrests of British Muslims > accused of plotting a massive terror attack. > Several Jews coming from the UK said the terror threat hadn't > dissuaded them from traveling and that other recent developments, > notably the response in Britain to Israel's actions against > Hizbullah, had increased their desire to leave. > "I believe there is no future for Jews outside Israel," said Yossi > Vardakis, 19, while en route from London to Israel, where he plans to > study rather than face hostility at a British university. "You don't > feel really welcomed being Jewish [in England]. You're attacked for > supporting Israel... You see this hatred coming out." You are attacked for supporting Israel, and that is anti-semitism? British people take very little notice of religion, being a mostly atheist country, if you say you are Jewish it would be greeted with the same sort of disinterested shrug as if you'd said you were a Catholic. If however you say you support Israel's policies, it will be greeted with the same sort of reaction that a supporter of the AWB would get if he said he supported Apartheid. > Since hostilities erupted between Israel and Hizbullah, British Jews > have experienced a doubling in the rate of anti-Semitic incidents - > most in the form of vandalism and threats - according to the > Community Security Trust. Not half as many as the anti-Islamic attacks I'll warrant. > Many members of the Jewish community have > also accused the British media of incendiary coverage of the conflict. Just as UK Muslims complain about news coverage, I'm very happy with news coverage that neither side applauds. > Leila Segal, a writer and editor, described herself as living in a > "mental ghetto" in London, where she felt she was "always censoring" > herself when it came to her Jewish identity. Rephrase that to Israeli identity and I can accept that. > "I'm not running away from that, because we have to confront it," she > said. "But I really think that coming to Israel and living in Israel, > that's a very strong act we can take to affirm our existence." > Shachar Navon of the Jewish Agency's London branch said the influx of > immigrants would contribute to an expected 550 British olim in 2006, > the highest number in the last decade and a continuation of a trend > which has seen about a 50 percent rise in British newcomers in the > last few years. > She attributed that increase largely to antagonism felt by British > Jews: "They say they are not fully secure here in the UK and that > there are anti-Semitic acts all the time. They say they want to live > in a place that welcomes them instead of looking at them as > strangers." What bollocks. The Jewish community in Britain has nothing to fear. Nobody gives a toss unless they advocate policies that the majority of British people believe to be morally bankrupt. > Standing amid a sea of friends, family and IDF soldiers waving Israeli > flags to welcome the new immigrants to Ben-Gurion, Jewish Agency > Chairman Ze'ev Bielski said the pull is so strong that the recent > violence has not deterred them from coming. In fact, some 4,000 > immigrants have arrived since the beginning of the war. > "People came to the conclusion that never mind Hizbullah, never mind > [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad, we are coming here because > this is the only Jewish state we have," he said. "It's the only > country in the world where the prime minister waits at the airport to > welcome new immigrants." Its the only country in the world that is desperate enough. > Soon afterward, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert addressed the crowd, which > gave him a muted welcome. He noted the difficult experience the > country has recently been through, but said, "One thing that really > strengthens this country is aliya." > He told the audience of teary immigrants, boisterous children and > squealing pets, "When more than 500 Jews on this day come to the > State of Israel, what they say to the world is, 'We are afraid of no > one, because we trust the State of Israel, we believe in the future > of Israel and we will build the State of Israel with all the Jewish > people.'" > Debra Kalms, 44, who came from London to join her daughter here, said > the current events only strengthened her resolve to come. > "It's a very historic time in our people's history," said the former > executive director of Hadassah in the UK, sitting in Stansted airport > with her 13-year-old son before their departure. > "To come at this time and help be a part of the country and > [contribute] to our people and our faith, I feel very privileged to > be in that position." > Daniel Robinson, 19, making aliya on his own from London, said the > reports of Katyusha and army casualties had made him "rethink how > hard it would be" to live in Israel, but "hasn't for a second made me > question my plans to make aliya." > In fact, he said that when he heard Nefesh B'Nefesh was launching its > first UK flight, it pushed him to come ahead of schedule. I take it that things being so intolerable, and Britain being such an awful anti-semitic place, he has renounced his British citizenship? I'm sure he's kept that particular life raft, he'll be back after his gap year pleased with his cut-price flight. Now then Boludovsky, how about those Israeli emigration figures? Osric For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Thu Jun 5 11:51:56 EDT 2008 Article: 702919 of soc.culture.palestine Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Why the World Hates the Jews/ZYDs Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:30:31 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 303 Message-ID: <3018441ge7sv6u5ktm5crf3p539bbvip3h@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 19139 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.swiss:58834 soc.culture.australian:463428 soc.culture.palestine:702919 Why still after more than 2000 years does the World Still Hate the foul Christkiller ZYDS/Jews! On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:18:34 -0500, in soc.culture.usa "DoD" wrote: [Interesting, and probably true for most people outside the U.S. and a few inside the U.S., but I dont think it tells the whole story] Many of the bitter controversies in every corner of the globe inevitably raise the same ancient question: why does the world hate the Jews? Whether it's the angry international reaction to Israel's efforts to defend itself in Lebanon, or Mel Gibson's drunken rant in Malibu, the age-old specter of anti-Semitism refuses to disappear. With only 13 million Jews in the world - less than one fourth of one percent of the earth's population - why does this tiny group inspire such bitter, widespread and often violent animosity? The answer is obvious to anyone who monitors anti-Semitic propaganda from all its multifarious sources. People who express hatred, resentment or fear regarding the Jews almost always focus on charges of Jewish arrogance, elitism, aggressiveness and lust for power. According to the logic of anti-Semites everywhere, Jews deserve harsher treatment than anyone else because they work harder than anyone else to enshrine their own superior status. This argument suggests that the only way to answer constant Jewish demands for special treatment and privilege is to impose special limitations and restrictions on their instinctive will to dominate. According to such logic, the rest of the world must work together to cut Jews down to size; only then will they function on the same plane as everyone else. As Hutton Gibson (Holocaust-denying father of the scandal-tarnished star, Mel) revealingly declared to interviewer Steve Feuerstein: "I don't know what the Jewish agenda is except that it's all about control. They're after one world religion and one world government." This central, primeval charge that arrogant Jews seek global dominance originates from three distinct historical factors: 1- The emphasis on the "Chosen People" concept in the Bible 2- The prominence and prosperity of Jews in most nations in which they've established significant communities, and 3- The startling successes of the State of Israel in the mere 60 years of its existence. These circumstances sometimes perplex even people of good will and therefore deserve deeper consideration and explanation. I. CHOSEN PEOPLE CONCEPT While it's true that the Bible speaks repeatedly of a special relationship between God and the Jews, anti-Semitic agitators have always misunderstood or distorted the essential nature of that connection. According to Scripture, the Jews have been chosen for distinct responsibilities, not for unique privileges: we accept special obligations, rather than claiming special power. In Jewish tradition, non-Jews are expected to follow just seven commandments-the Noahide laws of basic morality. According to mainstream Torah teaching, gentiles who follow these rules (don't murder, don't steal, don't commit gross sexual immorality, and so forth) should be judged as righteous and assumed to earn their share in the World to Come (the afterlife). God, however, expects his covenantal people to apply far more numerous and stringent commandments to their behavior - 613 commandments, to be exact - regarding everything from food, to business ethics, marital relations, and Sabbath observance. The concept of chosen-ness, in other words, involves a significant burden rather than privileged status -a burden reflected in the common phrase, "Ohl Malchus Shamayim" or "The Yoke of the Kingdom of Heaven," to describe the commitment of every Jew who accepts the covenant of Abraham. Moreover, Jews remain more a "choosing people" than a "chosen people" because so many non-Jews over the centuries (and particularly in recent years) have selected Jewish identity and converted to our faith. In the US, nearly 10% of today's Jewish population of 5.2 million counts as converts to Judaism. Though we don't emphasize proselytizing efforts in the style of Evangelical Christians, many of the leaders of the Jewish people (including hugely significant rabbis in nearly every era for the last 2000 years) have been "Jews by Choice" --- those who weren't born Jewish, but chose to join our people through an ancient, well-established process of conversion. Finally, the whole idea of the "Chosen People" has never brought the assumption that God selected us for unusual political, military or even economic authority. The Bible suggests that the Jews will be "a nation of priests and a holy nation" --- not some sort of all-conquering superpower within the Middle East or the world at large. Our tradition has always defined Jewish power as spiritual, rather than practical and worldly. No Jewish leader, going all the way back to Moses and Abraham, has ever suggested that our people should dominate the world and control other nations. The Bible specifies relatively modest borders for the Holy Land, and repeatedly mentions the much larger, far more formidable empires to the south (Egypt) and to the East (Babylonia, Assyria, Persia). Even during the glory days of ancient Israel under David and Solomon the Jewish state never achieved full control of that promised territory-let alone a world-girdling empire. At that time, as with Israel today, the Jewish people sought only to live unmolested within the confines of their own cherished land, each man "beneath his own vine and own fig tree." II. JEWISH PROMINENCE AND SUCCESS IN THE LANDS OF THE DIASPORA No one can deny that Jews in the United States and in many other nations recently have achieved surprising levels of prosperity and influence but any talk of Jewish "dominance" or "control" in those societies remains the province of neo-Nazi propagandists. There is no significant industry or arena of endeavor - no, not one--in any nation in the world (outside of Israel) in which Jews outnumber or rule over non-Jews. Even the famous Jewish command of Hollywood is an ignorant myth concerning an increasingly international industry in which the prominence of influential Jews has actually decreased in the last seventy years. Most of the pioneering movie studios founded and owned by immigrant Jewish families have either gone out of the movie production business altogether (M-G-M) or else sold out to strikingly non-Jewish corporations (Columbia to the Japanese Sony Corporation, and 20th Century Fox to an Australian descendant of Presbyterian clergy, Rupert Murdoch). The two largest entertainment conglomerates in the world boast board chairmen who are African-American (Richard Parsons at Time Warner) and Arab American (George Mitchell at Disney) neither of whom are remotely Jewish. The yearly lists of Hollywood's most influential power players, as identified by Premiere Magazine and other sources, regularly show that close to one-fourth of the movers-and-shakers are Jews-a disproportionate showing, to be sure, but hardly an indication of Jewish dominance. Similarly, the Fortune 500 list of the nation's largest corporations features a top ten ranking that includes three oil companies with strong Arab ties and no affection whatever for Israel, as well as a car company (Ford) founded by one of history's most outspoken anti-Semites, and a retailer run by conservative Christians from Arkansas (Wal-Mart)-but not a single corporation that was founded, run, or owned by Jews. Among the top 100, at most six (including Home Depot, Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers) could classify in any way as "Jewish companies." With these incontrovertible facts easy to verify for anyone with access to the internet or a library, it becomes even more difficult to explain the persistent, pernicious and utterly false belief that Jews "own" or "control" most of the world's banks, newspapers, media companies and other important instiutions. Part of the confusion involves appalling lies and misinformation: many callers to my radio show somehow believe that the Rockefellers are Jewish (they were actually German Christians who arrived in Philadelphia in 1723) or that the Rothschild family-a favorite target of anti-Semites for more than 200 years-- still dominates world banking (the family's power actually peaked in the Napoleonic era and their influence on the global economy today is either invisible or non-existent). There is also a tendency on the part of paranoid anti-Semites to search out a few Jewish names even in areas in which Jews play minor roles in order to triumphantly affirm the myth of "Jewish control." Consider the case of the Bush administration and the frequent, laughably absurd charge that it's somehow dominated by Jewish "neo-conservatives" who forced the President to make war on Iraq for the sake of Israel. In truth, Jews remained conspicuously absent from positions of authority during the first Bush term: for the first time in more than 65 years (since the Presidency of FDR!) the President's Cabinet (15 department heads in all) included not a single Jew. The true believers in a Neo-Con cabal invariably cite just two names who held sub-cabinet posts (Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense and Douglas Feith, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy) and a single civilian advisor to the Defense Department (Richard Perle, of the Defense Policy Board) who doesn't even count as an administration employee. The anti-Semites focus on these names not because of their importance (anyone who believes that Wolfowitz and Feith secretly controlled their imperious, tough-as-nails boss, Don Rumsfeld, knows nothing about Rummy) but because they happen to be Jewish. Similarly, conspiracists like to blame Jews in the Senate for pushing us into war with Iraq, while ignoring the fact that a bare majority of the eleven Jewish Senators at the time (including such fierce anti-war advocates as Russ Feingold and Barbara Boxer) actually voted against the resolution authorizing war -at a time when nearly 80% of their gentile colleagues lined up on the other side to support the President in deposing Saddam Hussein. To me, one of the most mystifying aspects of the stubborn belief in Jewish influence and power is the notion that our fractious, deeply divided, largely disaffiliated people somehow manages to get together to exert that authority. I'm a Jewish radio talk show host, and so is the appalling (and unfunny) Al Franken of Air America. We agree on nothing, and we've both managed to survive several very angry, bitter, public confrontations. Do Jew-haters believe that behind the scenes we receive the same secret memos >from Jewish Conspiracy Central, or else get together in dank, shadowy rooms to study the one-hundred-year-old hoax, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion"? Less than half of the U.S. Jewish population (alas!) gives to any Jewish charity, or holds membership in any synagogue, Temple, pro-Israel lobbying group, B'nai B'rith lodge, or other Jewish organization. In this context, the almost mystical, profoundly illogical belief in "Jewish power" based on our over-representation among accountants and dentists amounts to more than a delusion; it is, in fact, a sickness. III: ISRAEL'S SUCCESS - AND ALLEGEDLY "EXPANSIONIST" AND "IMPERIALIST" NATURE In order to credit Islamist denunciations of an "Israeli Empire," or worry that the perennially embattled Jewish state might indeed count as uniquely aggressive and power hungry, one must remain incurably ignorant not only of contemporary history but of rudimentary geography. The merest glance at a map reveals the incontrovertible fact that Israel remains, in every sense, a tiny nation. Egypt alone - representing only one of Israel's twenty hostile Arab neighbors-is more than 48 times the land area of Israel. Adding together only the various Arab nations (without including other vast Islamic homelands like Iran and Afghanistan and Pakistan), the Arabs control well over 300 times the area of the New Jersey-sized Jewish state. In other words, even before President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran succeeds (God forbid) in his plan to "wipe Israel from the map," 99.7% of the Arab lands are already free of Jews. Moreover, for nearly thirty years, Israel has been shrinking and retreating - not expanding - hardly the behavior of an aggressive empire bent on world domination. After capturing the Sinai Peninsula, Gaza and the West Bank in a defensive war in 1967, Israel returned the vast Sinai to Egypt in 1978, agreed to the establishment of a Palestinian State on most of the West Bank and Gaza in 1993, vacated its security zone in Lebanon in 2000, abandoned Gaza entirely in 2005 and, under the current Prime Minister, committed to moving out of nearly all territory in the West Bank in the near future. In retrospect, some of these moves look like horrible policy mistakes, but they unequivocally indicate that there is no basis at all to suggest that Israeli aggression accounts for contemporary anti-Semitism. The establishment of the modern Jewish state wasn't a cause of Jew hatred, but a response to Jew hatred-not only in Europe, but throughout the Islamic world where some 800,000 Middle Eastern and North African Jews were driven >from their ancient communities and found new homes in Israel. None of Israel 's eight major wars has been about a Jewish lust for new territory. All of them have been about a beleaguered nation's ceaseless attempts to make its citizens secure from murderous attack in the distinctly limited area of their ancestral homeland. Every Arab child in Lebanon, in Gaza, and in the West Bank could sleep sweet, undisturbed slumber as soon as tomorrow night if the adults once-and-for-all gave up their long-standing project of driving the Jews out of the Middle East. Contrary to anti-Semitic presumptions, Israel has never demanded special privileges of any kind, but yearns (and bleeds) only for the same rights other nations enjoy: to live undisturbed beside its neighbors without unceasing attack by terrorists, militias and, occasionally, major armies. Montenegro, the newest member of the family of nations after a referendum this year, won independence and worldwide recognition despite the fact that more than 45% of the electorate opposed bringing the nation into existence, and only a bare majority claims Montenegran (as opposed to Serbian) nationality. More than 80% of the residents of Israel are Jewish, and they have fought tenaciously for their nationhood for nearly sixty years. The desire for peaceful borders and acceptance from fanatical neighbors hardly amounts to an Israeli demand of privileged status, but the refusal to grant that recognition reflects the classical attitude of the anti-Semite: that Jews indeed deserve different treatment from all other nations on earth but in a negative, hostile and, ultimately murderous sense. In conclusion, none of the three obsessive fears of Jew haters-the "Chosen People" concept, Jewish prosperity in the Diaspora, and Israel's success (so far) in nation-building and self-defense -demonstrates in any way a push for world conquest or superior standing for the children of Abraham. How, then, can we understand the imperishable belief that Jews function as an arrogant, imperious, overbearing people? In a few words, that resentment stems in truth from the age-old Jewish refusal to abandon our separate identity, our irreducible distinctiveness through the millennia. My friends Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin provide the most compelling exposition on this dynamic in their invaluable book, Why the Jews?, recently reissued. In any event, the logic becomes most accessible when considered in personal, intimate terms. If a small group among your neighbors refuses invitations to worship in your churches and mosques, to eat the food you prepare in your homes, to marry your daughters, to embrace your nationalisms, or to share your enthusiasm for the ultimate, universally applicable perfection of your Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Catholic, Islamic, Nazi or Communist worldview, then it's all but certain you will resent the members of that stubborn group - and assume that they exclude themselves from elements of your society due to an innate, obnoxious sense of superiority. For Jews who try to remain faithful to the old covenant, there's no choice about the unyielding refusal to assimilate and disappear-and no surprise at the angry reaction in much of the world. After all, the Bible repeatedly predicts that response. This realization doesn't make it any easier to cope with anti-Semitism, but it does make the eternal hatred comprehensible. No matter how inconvenient or unpopular, we get our marching orders from the commandments--including the crucial and celebrated injunction to choose life, for ourselves and our people. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23787 For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR or to KenMcVay@nizkor.org. Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:39:10 EDT 2008 Article: 1913449 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!! Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:30:42 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 119 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 5984 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.jewish:1942626 alt.revisionism:1913449 soc.culture.palestine:703181 Mcvay and his one faggot so-called business Nizkor, [where only fag McVay gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada! Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his money laundering! Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities. With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover, including from those donors who supported all the criminality!! No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam! Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and money being laundered: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1 Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1 Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122 Message-ID: Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT Two Companion pieces to the above: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1 (Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6) Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822 Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com> Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT ------------------------------AND------------------------------- http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!) Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1 Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227 Message-ID: Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam V2.0 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.) If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:39:11 EDT 2008 Article: 1914696 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeeder.dynfx.net!weretis.net!news.k-dsl.de!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!! Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:24:33 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 119 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 6015 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.jewish:1944431 alt.revisionism:1914696 soc.culture.palestine:703311 Mcvay and his one faggot so-called business Nizkor, [where only fag McVay gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada! Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his money laundering! Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities. With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover, including from those donors who supported all the criminality!! No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam! Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and money being laundered: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1 Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1 Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122 Message-ID: Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT Two Companion pieces to the above: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1 (Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6) Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822 Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com> Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT ------------------------------AND------------------------------- http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!) Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1 Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227 Message-ID: Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam V2.0 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.) If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:41:51 EDT 2008 Article: 125544 of can.taxes Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,tor.general,can.taxes Subject: McVay TAX FRAUD Causes B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! - Latest in News Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:44:29 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 682 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 29912 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.canada:598474 tor.general:345766 can.taxes:125544 Ken McVay with his massive tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING TAX FRAUD involving the collusion of senior managers at B'nai Brith, is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, the reliable jew newspaper, week after week, and is now a major cause of B'Nai Brith Canada Breaking Up!! No wonder CRA & IRS are also so very interested! McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details ! Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS, BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!! It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting up a new jew charity group. Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" "Everything was manipulated." We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised! Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal. On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the mismanagement and financial irregularities. Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court, so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!! McVay TAX FRAUD Causing B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations! Full text of article follows at bottom of comments. The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn wrote: Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, [pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!! Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA: http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870 Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other Tax Fraud A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed, international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income tax returns. BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN SOPHISTICATED TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY. Canadian Jewish News Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. ... Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26 Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl =us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT GO UNPUNISHED. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. >Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, >[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major >scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. >Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. >Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!! So stupid why didn't you show the url? The entire original article is below, cretin. >No wonder honest jews are incenced! >It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, >are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting >up a new jew charity group. >Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide >audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members >are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. >For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS >RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Ken McVay uber alles. >Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core >group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer “BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national administrative board. The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. “Everything was manipulated,” he said. “We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.” Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a “breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s been talk about it,” he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still does good work,” he said. What he is after is reform. “I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to get some accountability and transparency.” Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. “We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization,” he said. Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been debunked.” “This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community,” he said. Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.” Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small.” He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way they remembered. “My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community,” he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a travesty of justice.” He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization. “I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up… The lodges will be gone.” http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of the Jewish faith is backing him. >Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped >getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" >"Everything was manipulated." >We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. >How is that money used? >Where does it go? >We don't know." >Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in >ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for >fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder >executives of BB are very concerned. >For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website >for JEW-WATCH: >http://www.jewwatch.com >Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION >WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - >no wonder people around the world are really disliking the >Christkiller ZHIDS!! The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe. > >Or, other useful websites include: >ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org Does he still clean the toilets of Turks? >IHR - www.ihr.org >Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well. >OSTARA - www.ostara.org >PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html >Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com >AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage >THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, > Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History > Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com >Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg >American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com >Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com >Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com >They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From: Caduceus@eris.io.com Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Canadian Jewish News Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer "BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national administrative board. The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a "breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's been talk about it," he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still does good work," he said. What he is after is reform. "I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to get some accountability and transparency." Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. "We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization," he said. Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been debunked." "This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community," he said. Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed." Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small." He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way they remembered. "My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community," he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a travesty of justice." He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization. "I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up. The lodges will be gone." http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86 +%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com> Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:41:53 EDT 2008 Article: 125564 of can.taxes Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,tor.general,can.taxes Subject: McVay TAX FRAUD Causes B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! - Latest in News Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:15:10 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 682 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 29912 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.canada:598654 tor.general:345852 can.taxes:125564 Ken McVay with his massive tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING TAX FRAUD involving the collusion of senior managers at B'nai Brith, is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, the reliable jew newspaper, week after week, and is now a major cause of B'Nai Brith Canada Breaking Up!! No wonder CRA & IRS are also so very interested! McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details ! Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS, BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!! It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting up a new jew charity group. Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" "Everything was manipulated." We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised! Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal. On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the mismanagement and financial irregularities. Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court, so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!! McVay TAX FRAUD Causing B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations! Full text of article follows at bottom of comments. The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn wrote: Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, [pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!! Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA: http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870 Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other Tax Fraud A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed, international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income tax returns. BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN SOPHISTICATED TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY. Canadian Jewish News Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. ... Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26 Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl =us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT GO UNPUNISHED. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. >Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, >[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major >scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. >Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. >Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!! So stupid why didn't you show the url? The entire original article is below, cretin. >No wonder honest jews are incenced! >It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, >are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting >up a new jew charity group. >Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide >audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members >are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. >For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS >RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Ken McVay uber alles. >Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core >group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer “BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national administrative board. The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. “Everything was manipulated,” he said. “We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.” Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a “breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s been talk about it,” he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still does good work,” he said. What he is after is reform. “I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to get some accountability and transparency.” Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. “We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization,” he said. Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been debunked.” “This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community,” he said. Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.” Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small.” He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way they remembered. “My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community,” he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a travesty of justice.” He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization. “I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up… The lodges will be gone.” http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of the Jewish faith is backing him. >Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped >getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" >"Everything was manipulated." >We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. >How is that money used? >Where does it go? >We don't know." >Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in >ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for >fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder >executives of BB are very concerned. >For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website >for JEW-WATCH: >http://www.jewwatch.com >Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION >WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - >no wonder people around the world are really disliking the >Christkiller ZHIDS!! The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe. > >Or, other useful websites include: >ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org Does he still clean the toilets of Turks? >IHR - www.ihr.org >Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well. >OSTARA - www.ostara.org >PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html >Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com >AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage >THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, > Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History > Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com >Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg >American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com >Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com >Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com >They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From: Caduceus@eris.io.com Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Canadian Jewish News Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer "BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national administrative board. The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a "breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's been talk about it," he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still does good work," he said. What he is after is reform. "I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to get some accountability and transparency." Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. "We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization," he said. Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been debunked." "This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community," he said. Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed." Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small." He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way they remembered. "My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community," he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a travesty of justice." He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization. "I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up. The lodges will be gone." http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86 +%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com> Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:41:55 EDT 2008 Article: 125590 of can.taxes Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!grolier!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,tor.general,can.taxes Subject: McVay TAX FRAUD Causes B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! - Latest in News Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:07:14 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 682 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 29919 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.canada:599114 tor.general:345914 can.taxes:125590 Ken McVay with his massive tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING TAX FRAUD involved the collusion of senior managers at B'nai Brith, is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, the reliable jew newspaper, week after week, and is now a major cause of B'Nai Brith Canada Breaking Up!! No wonder CRA & IRS are also so very interested! McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details ! Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS, BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!! It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting up a new jew charity group. Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" "Everything was manipulated." We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised! Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal. On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the mismanagement and financial irregularities. Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court, so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!! McVay TAX FRAUD Causing B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations! Full text of article follows at bottom of comments. The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn wrote: Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, [pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!! Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA: http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870 Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other Tax Fraud A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed, international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income tax returns. BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN SOPHISTICATED TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY. Canadian Jewish News Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. ... Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26 Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl =us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT GO UNPUNISHED. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. >Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, >[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major >scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. >Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. >Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!! So stupid why didn't you show the url? The entire original article is below, cretin. >No wonder honest jews are incenced! >It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, >are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting >up a new jew charity group. >Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide >audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members >are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. >For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS >RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Ken McVay uber alles. >Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core >group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer “BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national administrative board. The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. “Everything was manipulated,” he said. “We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.” Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a “breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s been talk about it,” he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still does good work,” he said. What he is after is reform. “I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to get some accountability and transparency.” Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. “We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization,” he said. Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been debunked.” “This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community,” he said. Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.” Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small.” He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way they remembered. “My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community,” he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a travesty of justice.” He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization. “I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up… The lodges will be gone.” http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of the Jewish faith is backing him. >Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped >getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" >"Everything was manipulated." >We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. >How is that money used? >Where does it go? >We don't know." >Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in >ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for >fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder >executives of BB are very concerned. >For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website >for JEW-WATCH: >http://www.jewwatch.com >Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION >WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - >no wonder people around the world are really disliking the >Christkiller ZHIDS!! The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe. > >Or, other useful websites include: >ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org Does he still clean the toilets of Turks? >IHR - www.ihr.org >Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well. >OSTARA - www.ostara.org >PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html >Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com >AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage >THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, > Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History > Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com >Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg >American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com >Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com >Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com >They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From: Caduceus@eris.io.com Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Canadian Jewish News Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer "BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national administrative board. The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a "breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's been talk about it," he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still does good work," he said. What he is after is reform. "I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to get some accountability and transparency." Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. "We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization," he said. Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been debunked." "This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community," he said. Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed." Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small." He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way they remembered. "My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community," he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a travesty of justice." He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization. "I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up. The lodges will be gone." http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86 +%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com> Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:41:57 EDT 2008 Article: 125609 of can.taxes Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,tor.general,can.taxes Subject: McVay TAX FRAUD Causes B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! - Latest in News Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:43:24 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 683 Message-ID: <5c4u44lmkn4vng08pvhrfml06r0f96dprk@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 29902 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.canada:599282 tor.general:345943 can.taxes:125609 Ken McVay and his massive CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING TAX FRAUD involved the collusion of senior managers at B'nai Brith, is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, the reliable jew newspaper, week after week, and is now a major cause of B'Nai Brith Canada Breaking Up!! No wonder CRA & IRS are also so very interested! McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details ! Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS, BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!! It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting up a new jew charity group. Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" "Everything was manipulated." We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised! Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal. On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the mismanagement and financial irregularities. Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court, so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!! McVay TAX FRAUD Causing B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!! Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations! Full text of article follows at bottom of comments. The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true! On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn wrote: Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, [pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!! Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA: http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870 Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other Tax Fraud A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed, international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income tax returns. BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN SOPHISTICATED TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY. Canadian Jewish News Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. ... Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26 Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl =us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT GO UNPUNISHED. JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU? For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. >Canadian Jew News had a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages, >[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major >scandal involving the current BB Canada managers. >Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic. >Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!! So stupid why didn't you show the url? The entire original article is below, cretin. >No wonder honest jews are incenced! >It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents, >are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting >up a new jew charity group. >Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide >audited financial statements before the AGM, as required. members >are concerned about what is happening to all the funds collected. >For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS >RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL? Ken McVay uber alles. >Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core >group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned. Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer “BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national administrative board. The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. “Everything was manipulated,” he said. “We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.” Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a “breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s been talk about it,” he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still does good work,” he said. What he is after is reform. “I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to get some accountability and transparency.” Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. “We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization,” he said. Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been debunked.” “This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community,” he said. Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.” Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small.” He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way they remembered. “My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community,” he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a travesty of justice.” He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization. “I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up… The lodges will be gone.” http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of the Jewish faith is backing him. >Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped >getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs" >"Everything was manipulated." >We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. >How is that money used? >Where does it go? >We don't know." >Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in >ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for >fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder >executives of BB are very concerned. >For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website >for JEW-WATCH: >http://www.jewwatch.com >Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION >WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - >no wonder people around the world are really disliking the >Christkiller ZHIDS!! The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe. > >Or, other useful websites include: >ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org Does he still clean the toilets of Turks? >IHR - www.ihr.org >Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well. >OSTARA - www.ostara.org >PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html >Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com >AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage >THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, > Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History > Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com >Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg >American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com >Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com >Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com >They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From: Caduceus@eris.io.com Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Canadian Jewish News Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter Thursday, 06 December 2007 TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have addressed the issue. At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of the ex-officials said. At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer "BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national administrative board. The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper the Forward. BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent organization. In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial statements prior to the annual general meeting (AGM). Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to 20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has been taking. A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation. "Everything was manipulated," he said. "We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is that money used? Where does it go? We don't know." [Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned. http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam" Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?" Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ] Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a "breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's been talk about it," he said. Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic, representative and transparent organization. Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added. He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still does good work," he said. What he is after is reform. "I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to get some accountability and transparency." Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in organizational governance. "We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a democratically run organization," he said. Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been debunked." "This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total Jewish community," he said. Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish organizations. In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national president Gerry Weinstein. BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting documentation. The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings, arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court. Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed." Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled members, a handful, very small." He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune newspaper. As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way they remembered. "My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help the Jewish community," he said. For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a travesty of justice." He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization. "I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting fed up. The lodges will be gone." http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86 http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/ index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86 +%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed; http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1 "The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)" Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1 "Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry" Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com> Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com, or KenMcVay@vex.net Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:45:01 EDT 2008 Article: 1942626 of soc.culture.jewish Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!! Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:30:42 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 119 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 5984 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.jewish:1942626 alt.revisionism:1913449 soc.culture.palestine:703181 Mcvay and his one faggot so-called business Nizkor, [where only fag McVay gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada! Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his money laundering! Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities. With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover, including from those donors who supported all the criminality!! No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam! Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and money being laundered: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1 Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1 Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122 Message-ID: Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT Two Companion pieces to the above: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1 (Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6) Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822 Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com> Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT ------------------------------AND------------------------------- http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!) Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1 Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227 Message-ID: Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam V2.0 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.) If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:45:02 EDT 2008 Article: 1944431 of soc.culture.jewish Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeeder.dynfx.net!weretis.net!news.k-dsl.de!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!! Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:24:33 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 119 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 6015 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.jewish:1944431 alt.revisionism:1914696 soc.culture.palestine:703311 Mcvay and his one faggot so-called business Nizkor, [where only fag McVay gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada! Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his money laundering! Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities. With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover, including from those donors who supported all the criminality!! No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam! Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and money being laundered: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1 Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1 Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122 Message-ID: Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT Two Companion pieces to the above: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1 (Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6) Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822 Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com> Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT ------------------------------AND------------------------------- http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!) Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1 Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227 Message-ID: Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam V2.0 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.) If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:45:44 EDT 2008 Article: 614601 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed2.ip.tiscali.net!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: ZydWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.german Subject: Was There Really A Holocaust? Or Just HOLOHOAX? Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:34:53 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 285 Message-ID: Reply-To: ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 15973 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:614601 soc.culture.swiss:58951 soc.culture.german:344483 A valid question regarding the HOLOHOAX, particularly now that the KOLLABORATION of such prominent filthy ZYDS such as KASTNER, RUTKOWSKI,and WIESENTHAL et al is well documented and proven even by ZYDS! On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:58:17 +0000, in can.politics Jill Tyrell wrote: The short answer, of course, is NO. The "Holocaust" has given Israel a tremendous psychological advantage over the Gentile world, particularly America and Germany. By exploiting the guilt complex instilled in non-Jews, they have obtained: Over $65 billion in aid from Germany. Over $55 billion in aid from America. Israel, a prosperous country, receives $3.2 billion, (or $8 million a day) in foreign aid - more than any other country. The 45,000 Jewish immigrants from Russia have the highest annual quota after Mexico. They enter as "refugees" without having to prove persecution! As "refugees" they are automatically entitled to full welfare benefits not subject to welfare reform cuts. Nonstop holocaust brainwashing in schools, TV, movies and books has placed Israel and organized Jewry above criticism! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Official Holocaust Figures Reduced Immediately after World War II, Allied authorities declared that "Jews had been gassed" in all German concentration camps. It later discovered that the many bodies photographed in the camps died during the waning days of the war - from typhus, cold and starvation. Simon Wiesenthal, of the "Holocaust Center" in Los Angeles, stated in Books and Bookmen, April 1975, page 5, "No gassing took place in any camp on German soil." The Jew L.P. Beria headed the Soviet NKVD secret police >from 1938 to 1953. In 1945, he announced that they had discovered a "holocaust" of six million Jews. This conveniently occurred only in camps in Poland! Beria would not allow any outside investigators to examine these sites. The Jewish-owned New York Times reported in 1945 that Soviet Russia supplied the figure of four million Jews having been put to death, "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz." However, in July of 1990, the Polish government reduced this figure to 1.1 million and it was accepted by Jewish groups. Despite this evidence, the "official figure" of six million dead was not lowered to three million! (It should also be noted that Elizabeth Dole, president of the American Red Cross, and wife of former Sen. Bob Dole, revealed that the official death records from Auschwitz had been uncovered in the Soviet Archives. It listed 70,000 deaths from all causes.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No Holocaust Order Ever Given The Germans are noted for being meticulous record keepers. There was no attempt made to destroy wartime records, 1,100 tons of which were seized in the U.S. Zone of occupation alone. British Historian, Colin Cross, writes in his biography of Hitler, on page 313: "There does not exist then, anything like a written order signed by Hitler for the extermination of the Jews in Europe." Madagascar is a vast island off the coast of Africa in the Indian Ocean, then owned by France. Thousands of pages of German documents have been located providing a thorough study of the feasibility of establishing a Jewish homeland on the island of Madagascar. Plans were made for the reimbursement of the 25,000 French citizens who lived there. Even the government of France studied the plan. Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, considered Madagascar a possible site for a Jewish state. He also considered Kenya, Africa, the Sinai from the Suez Canal to the Gaza Strip, and a huge area in southern Poland, but they really wanted Palestine. The German Foreign Ministry on January 25, 1939 issued a document on the solution to the Jewish problem which stated: "The end policy in regard to the Jews is the emigration of all Jews living in the territory of the Old Reich." In Auschwitz Notebooks, we read that all of the top German leadership supported this plan. "On November 12, 1938, Goring had mentioned the question of Madagascar. Himmler himself had dreamed of that since 1934, a witness assures us. After the armistice of June 1940 (surrender of France), the idea was propounded by the Foreign Ministry and approved by Himmler as well as by Hitler himself." For these reasons SS official Reinhard Heydrich organized the Central Office for Jewish Emigration on February 11, 1939. Once the war began, this was no longer possible. Thus Hitler ordered the internment of Jews as enemy aliens and deported them to the east. On January 27, 1942, Hitler said: "The Jews must leave Europe. The best thing is that they go to Russia." Roosevelt did the same thing as Hitler by ordering 120,000 Americans of Japanese descent living on the West Coast interned in concentration camps. In March 1942 Roosevelt accused them of being "security risks." The Japanese men, women and children were imprisoned behind barbed wire fences and armed guard towers in the blazing hot desert. The Nuremberg War Crimes Trial heard testimony from Hans Lammers as to what he considered the "Final Solution of The Jewish Problem." Lammers was Chief of the Reich Chancellery and personally close to Himmler and Hitler. Lammers said he asked Himmler what was the "final solution." Himmler replied: "The Jews must be evacuated from Germany!" He said that Hitler told him the same thing. In other words, "The Final Solution" was --emigration! When asked, "when did you first learn that five million Jews had been exterminated," Lammers replied that it was "here" at the Nuremberg trials! Herman Goring also told the court that the first time he had heard anything about a holocaust was, "right here at Nuremberg!" Auschwitz was a massive military-industrial complex of 39 camps of which 19 mainly employed Jews. The factories at the "Monowitz No. 16 Camp" alone employed 126,000 workers. Holocaust expert, Leon Poliakov of Paris, in Breviary of Hate, page 134, in 1979 wrote that the Jewish Warsaw Ghetto was one of the Germans' "most important supply centers. The second in economic importance was the Lodz ghetto because it manufactured all kinds of goods, and, in particular, its textile industries constituted support of great value to the German economy." Heinrich Himmler feared a typhus epidemic in the camps. Eastern European Jews were very unhygienic and were often blamed for the spread of typhus. On December 28, 1942, Himmler ordered that, "the death rate in the camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source, Reitlinger's book, The Final Solution.) On January 20, 1943, chief inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks, answered Himmler, "Every means will be used to lower the death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Trial Document No. 1523.) The death rate had indeed been reduced from 8.5% in July 1942 to 2.8% in June 1943. On April 17, 1943, Hitler asked Admiral Horthy, regent of Hungary for, "100, 000 Jews to work on a new pursuit plane program." (Source, Reitlinger's book, Die Endlosung, 1956, page 478.) In May 1944 Hitler personally ordered that 200,000 more Jews be put to work in construction and "other important military works." The Jews were vital to the German war industry. It would have been counter productive to exterminate them. In fact, the SS arrested Karl Koch, commandant of Buchenwald, for mistreating and unjustly executing some prisoners. After being found guilty by a military court, Koch was sentenced to death and shot. If there was actually a "holocaust" he would have been honored instead of executed. Shindler's List features Commandant Amon Goeth, who in reality did abuse prisoners. However, the film fails to inform viewers that he had been arrested by the SS and was in prison awaiting trial at war's end. Most of the gruesome pictures of bodies we see in "made for TV" holocaust dramas are those who died of starvation and disease during the final chaotic months of the war. An example is Dachau. Some 54 died in January 1944 and 101 in February 1944. When food and medical supplies could not be delivered due to Allied bombings, 2,888 died in January and 3,977 in February 1945. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Impossibility of Mass Gassings Auschwitz had no mass graves. The cremation of four million bodies would have left 15,000 tons of ash which was never found. Many tons of coal would have been necessary for such mass cremations. Initially, the Soviets told conflicting stories about how the six million perished in the camps under their control. At first they claimed that the inmates had been "steamed" to death. On December 5, 1945, a Communist judge issued the following "Accusation No. 6" against defendant Hans Frank at Nuremberg: "A large boiler for the production of superheated steam was injected into the interior of the rooms. The doors are closed hermetically and the long asphyxiation of the victims by the steam begins. At the start, screams came from inside, they die down slowly; after 15 minutes, the executions are completed." This story was not believable. It was then changed to allege that trucks were backed up to the "death chambers" and carbon monoxide gas was pumped into the rooms. This claim too was "forgotten" and the Soviets then charged that the Germans changed the "steam chambers" into "gas chambers." The Soviets came up with a novel idea of how the Jews were exterminated at the Belzec camp. "The Jews were ordered to undress as though to take a bath. They were led in fact into a building that could hold hundreds of people. The water was filled up to their necks. Then a powerful electric current was sent into the metal flooring and within a few seconds all the Jews, thousands at a time, were dead." Soviet prosecutor L.N. Smirnov actually read this accusation into the record at the December 19, 1945, session of the Nuremberg trial. This story finally evolved to execution by "Zyklon B" gas. This was a widely used pesticide to kill lice which was the biggest health threat in the camps. Had the Germans actually wanted to perform mass exterminations, they had products one-thousand times more deadly such as Sarin and Tabun nerve gas! Austrian Engineer Walter Luftl issued a report in March 1992, in which he found that, "Zyklon B is utterly unsuited for the purposes of systematic mass murder." Fred Leuchter, America's foremost expert on executions, took a team of investigators to Auschwitz in 1988 and reported: "I traveled to Poland to investigate the alleged execution gas chamber facilities at the three concentration camps of Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek. My forensic analysis and subsequent report proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that there were no gas execution facilities operated by the Nazis at these sites." Leuchter also examined the capacity of the so-called "gas chamber building" at Birkenau. The Nuremberg Tribunal's document No. L-022 stated: "1,765,000 Jews were gassed at Birkenau between April 1942 and April 1944." However, Leuchter found that even if used at full capacity "only 105,688" persons could have been "gassed." His team scraped forensic samples from brick, mortar and concrete to find traces of cyanide compounds which would be present for centuries. They were submitted to the Alpha Analytical Laboratories of Ashland, Massachusetts. In March 1988, the Alpha report found that no cyanide elements, consistent with what could be expected to be found in a gas chamber, were present. A retired German judge, Dr. Wilhelm Staglich said: "The extermination thesis stands or falls with the allegation that Auschwitz was a 'death factory.'" Fred Leuchter's finding: "We have provided the definitive proof that there were no execution gas chambers utilized for genocidal purposes by the Germans at these wartime camps. The simple fact is that the holocaust story is not true." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How Many Jews Actually Died? The World Almanac for 1947, in quoting figures supplies by the American Jewish Committee states that the world Jewish population in 1939 was 15,688,259. The New York Times of February 22, 1948, stated that the world Jewish population ranged from 15,600,000 to 18,700,000, excluding some 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine. How could the Jewish population have increased so rapidly after losing six million during World War II? Walter Sanning, the author of Dissolution of European Jewry, says that no less than 2,200,000 Jews had emigrated out of Europe leaving 2,847,000 Jews residing there at the height of the German occupation in June 1941. After the war, 3,375,000 Jews, according to the Red Cross, applied for holocaust reparations. This figure included many of the emigrants. Thus, the actual number of those who died at the camps from all causes ranges between 150,000 and 300,000. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Holocaust" Silences Opposition Hardly a week goes by without a new holocaust story in the media. Bernard Postal wrote in Jewish Week, July 14, 1979: "Not until the Holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in national (political) campaigns. The Holocaust puts a taboo on overt anti-Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists." Zionist spokesmen have often boasted that, "The shattering effect of the holocaust on the Christian conscience results in a feeling of collective indebtedness to the Jews." The Red Cross issued a massive, three volume, 1,600 page report on the camps after the war, part of which reads: "In the final moths of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims." ... Gen. Kaltenbrunner. . . Allowed the Red Cross to distribute relief packages and one (Red Cross) delegate was authorized to stay in each camp (as an observer). Does this sound like a holocaust? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What About Real Holocausts? Why doesn't the film industry or news media produce documentaries about the numerous true holocausts of Gentiles during this century such as: The Soviet Holocaust of Christian Russian Kulak farmers. (1924 - 1930) - 15 million exterminated! The Holocaust of the Ukranian farmers, (1930- 1933) - 7 million starved to death. The Holocaust of Russian political prisoners, (1919 - 1949) - 12 million perished. The Pol Pot Communist Holocaust in Cambodia (1975) - 2.5 million slaughtered. Armenian Holocaust by the Turks, (1915) - 1.5 million people killed. Bear in mind that the Jews are the only racial group with an organization like the World Jewish congress which wields fearsome power! From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:46:44 EDT 2008 Article: 703181 of soc.culture.palestine Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!! Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:30:42 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 119 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 5984 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.jewish:1942626 alt.revisionism:1913449 soc.culture.palestine:703181 Mcvay and his one faggot so-called business Nizkor, [where only fag McVay gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada! Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his money laundering! Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities. With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover, including from those donors who supported all the criminality!! No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam! Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and money being laundered: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1 Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1 Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122 Message-ID: Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT Two Companion pieces to the above: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1 (Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6) Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822 Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com> Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT ------------------------------AND------------------------------- http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!) Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1 Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227 Message-ID: Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam V2.0 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.) If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From ZydWatch@antiNizkor.org Wed Jun 11 18:46:44 EDT 2008 Article: 703311 of soc.culture.palestine Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeeder.dynfx.net!weretis.net!news.k-dsl.de!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Zyd&McVayWatch Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!! Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:24:33 -0600 Organization: ZydWatch Lines: 119 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 6015 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.jewish:1944431 alt.revisionism:1914696 soc.culture.palestine:703311 Mcvay and his one faggot so-called business Nizkor, [where only fag McVay gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada! Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his money laundering! Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities. With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover, including from those donors who supported all the criminality!! No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam! Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and money being laundered: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1 Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1 Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122 Message-ID: Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT Two Companion pieces to the above: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1 (Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6) Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822 Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com> Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT ------------------------------AND------------------------------- http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1 Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!) Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here: http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1 Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227 Message-ID: Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1 Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam V2.0 Message-ID: Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.) If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Jun 11 18:39:08 EDT 2008 Article: 1913451 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed2.ip.tiscali.net!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Arthur Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism Subject: ZYD Money Laundering Ring Busted by US Govt.! - McVay/Mazal Next? Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:31:19 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 458 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 24142 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2348417 soc.culture.jewish:1942627 alt.revisionism:1913451 From: "Gnostic" Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500 U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere. http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767 2008-01-11 The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down By Amy Klein, Religion Editor Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by Dan Kacvinski The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here. And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka." A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's coming here. This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere. Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60. Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei Brak and Jerusalem in Israel. Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar, 60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company. Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes. These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J. O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal. "There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said. While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7 million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory," possibly for generations. This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn, Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York. However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members have been charged as being at the center of the scheme. As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started out as one of the perpetrators. THE BEGINNING On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund 10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007. Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as "confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement. In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told the FBI. As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95 percent of Kasirer's contributions. On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering him to pay $4,991,434. "Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to the SEC enforcement proceedings. In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC. According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money." "How much?" Zigelman asked. "Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said. "Million?" Zigelman asked. Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact. "What is SEC?" Zigelman asked. Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to give it to them." For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz. CASH OR CHARGE? For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an Israeli account. According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them. Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8, 2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house. On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution. The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps. On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to set up a new account so he could move money internationally. On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud. "So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here. Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien. "We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor. The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said. But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond dealer said, "It's not something you started." Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father." In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he wanted to meet with his father. "RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than that -- beyond living memory." CRIME IS NOT SO BAD "There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier. In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students. "Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad. That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community. "The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to 50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog. The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior. One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons: The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews. "The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional, nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country, yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he wrote. Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers, against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and stock-swindling." Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal activity: "Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance of mitzvoth," he wrote DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is denied access to "the world to come." The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government, even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law. Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than merited by Jewish law. This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late 19th century). But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular government. Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do, in fact, destroy people." Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to inform on another Jew. When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC) discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question. "There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what was done on the other side [by the defendants]." Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like "everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said. "Something which is wrong is wrong." Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S. government. "To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass," Cohen wrote. BUSINESS AS USUAL On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to begin. Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin. Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn. The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most were released before Shabbat. Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few men walked out in protest. "As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal [honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred "one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as usual." When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald, who was accompanied by an Israeli translator. A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk. Roth remains in custody. Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have the charges read to them. "How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked. One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each said: "Not guilty." By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom. By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and Zigelman, among others, await trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!! And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Jun 11 18:39:09 EDT 2008 Article: 1915310 of alt.revisionism Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Arthur Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism Subject: ZYD Money Laundering Ring Busted by US Govt.! - McVay/Mazal Next? Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:13:10 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 458 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 24136 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2351184 soc.culture.jewish:1945131 alt.revisionism:1915310 From: "Gnostic" Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500 U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere. http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767 2008-01-11 The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down By Amy Klein, Religion Editor Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by Dan Kacvinski The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here. And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka." A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's coming here. This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere. Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60. Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei Brak and Jerusalem in Israel. Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar, 60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company. Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes. These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J. O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal. "There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said. While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7 million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory," possibly for generations. This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn, Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York. However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members have been charged as being at the center of the scheme. As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started out as one of the perpetrators. THE BEGINNING On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund 10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007. Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as "confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement. In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told the FBI. As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95 percent of Kasirer's contributions. On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering him to pay $4,991,434. "Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to the SEC enforcement proceedings. In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC. According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money." "How much?" Zigelman asked. "Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said. "Million?" Zigelman asked. Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact. "What is SEC?" Zigelman asked. Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to give it to them." For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz. CASH OR CHARGE? For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an Israeli account. According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them. Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8, 2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house. On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution. The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps. On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to set up a new account so he could move money internationally. On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud. "So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here. Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien. "We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor. The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said. But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond dealer said, "It's not something you started." Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father." In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he wanted to meet with his father. "RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than that -- beyond living memory." CRIME IS NOT SO BAD "There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier. In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students. "Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad. That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community. "The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to 50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog. The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior. One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons: The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews. "The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional, nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country, yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he wrote. Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers, against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and stock-swindling." Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal activity: "Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance of mitzvoth," he wrote DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is denied access to "the world to come." The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government, even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law. Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than merited by Jewish law. This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late 19th century). But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular government. Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do, in fact, destroy people." Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to inform on another Jew. When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC) discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question. "There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what was done on the other side [by the defendants]." Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like "everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said. "Something which is wrong is wrong." Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S. government. "To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass," Cohen wrote. BUSINESS AS USUAL On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to begin. Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin. Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn. The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most were released before Shabbat. Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few men walked out in protest. "As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal [honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred "one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as usual." When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald, who was accompanied by an Israeli translator. A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk. Roth remains in custody. Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have the charges read to them. "How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked. One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each said: "Not guilty." By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom. By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and Zigelman, among others, await trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!! And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Jun 11 18:44:48 EDT 2008 Article: 1942627 of soc.culture.jewish Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed2.ip.tiscali.net!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Arthur Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism Subject: ZYD Money Laundering Ring Busted by US Govt.! - McVay/Mazal Next? Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:31:19 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 458 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 24142 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2348417 soc.culture.jewish:1942627 alt.revisionism:1913451 From: "Gnostic" Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500 U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere. http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767 2008-01-11 The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down By Amy Klein, Religion Editor Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by Dan Kacvinski The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here. And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka." A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's coming here. This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere. Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60. Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei Brak and Jerusalem in Israel. Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar, 60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company. Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes. These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J. O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal. "There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said. While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7 million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory," possibly for generations. This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn, Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York. However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members have been charged as being at the center of the scheme. As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started out as one of the perpetrators. THE BEGINNING On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund 10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007. Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as "confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement. In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told the FBI. As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95 percent of Kasirer's contributions. On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering him to pay $4,991,434. "Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to the SEC enforcement proceedings. In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC. According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money." "How much?" Zigelman asked. "Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said. "Million?" Zigelman asked. Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact. "What is SEC?" Zigelman asked. Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to give it to them." For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz. CASH OR CHARGE? For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an Israeli account. According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them. Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8, 2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house. On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution. The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps. On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to set up a new account so he could move money internationally. On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud. "So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here. Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien. "We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor. The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said. But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond dealer said, "It's not something you started." Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father." In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he wanted to meet with his father. "RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than that -- beyond living memory." CRIME IS NOT SO BAD "There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier. In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students. "Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad. That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community. "The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to 50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog. The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior. One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons: The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews. "The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional, nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country, yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he wrote. Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers, against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and stock-swindling." Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal activity: "Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance of mitzvoth," he wrote DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is denied access to "the world to come." The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government, even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law. Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than merited by Jewish law. This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late 19th century). But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular government. Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do, in fact, destroy people." Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to inform on another Jew. When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC) discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question. "There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what was done on the other side [by the defendants]." Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like "everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said. "Something which is wrong is wrong." Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S. government. "To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass," Cohen wrote. BUSINESS AS USUAL On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to begin. Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin. Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn. The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most were released before Shabbat. Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few men walked out in protest. "As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal [honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred "one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as usual." When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald, who was accompanied by an Israeli translator. A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk. Roth remains in custody. Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have the charges read to them. "How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked. One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each said: "Not guilty." By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom. By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and Zigelman, among others, await trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!! And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Jun 11 18:44:59 EDT 2008 Article: 1945131 of soc.culture.jewish Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Arthur Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism Subject: ZYD Money Laundering Ring Busted by US Govt.! - McVay/Mazal Next? Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:13:10 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 458 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 24136 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.usa:2351184 soc.culture.jewish:1945131 alt.revisionism:1915310 From: "Gnostic" Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500 U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere. http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767 2008-01-11 The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down By Amy Klein, Religion Editor Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by Dan Kacvinski The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here. And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka." A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's coming here. This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere. Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60. Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei Brak and Jerusalem in Israel. Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar, 60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company. Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes. These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J. O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal. "There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said. While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7 million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory," possibly for generations. This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn, Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York. However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members have been charged as being at the center of the scheme. As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started out as one of the perpetrators. THE BEGINNING On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund 10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007. Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as "confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement. In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told the FBI. As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95 percent of Kasirer's contributions. On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering him to pay $4,991,434. "Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to the SEC enforcement proceedings. In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC. According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money." "How much?" Zigelman asked. "Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said. "Million?" Zigelman asked. Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact. "What is SEC?" Zigelman asked. Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to give it to them." For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz. CASH OR CHARGE? For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an Israeli account. According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them. Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8, 2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house. On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution. The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps. On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to set up a new account so he could move money internationally. On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud. "So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here. Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien. "We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor. The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said. But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond dealer said, "It's not something you started." Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father." In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he wanted to meet with his father. "RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than that -- beyond living memory." CRIME IS NOT SO BAD "There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier. In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students. "Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad. That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community. "The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to 50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog. The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior. One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons: The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews. "The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional, nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country, yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he wrote. Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers, against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and stock-swindling." Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal activity: "Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance of mitzvoth," he wrote DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is denied access to "the world to come." The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government, even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law. Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than merited by Jewish law. This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late 19th century). But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular government. Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do, in fact, destroy people." Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to inform on another Jew. When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC) discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question. "There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what was done on the other side [by the defendants]." Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like "everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said. "Something which is wrong is wrong." Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S. government. "To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass," Cohen wrote. BUSINESS AS USUAL On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to begin. Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin. Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn. The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most were released before Shabbat. Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few men walked out in protest. "As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal [honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred "one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as usual." When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald, who was accompanied by an Israeli translator. A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk. Roth remains in custody. Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have the charges read to them. "How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked. One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each said: "Not guilty." By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom. By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and Zigelman, among others, await trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!! And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Jun 11 18:45:32 EDT 2008 Article: 614406 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.karotte.org!news2.arglkargh.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Arthur Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.russian,pl.regionalne.warszawa Subject: ZYDS Didn't Want Us to Know/Ne Znaio Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:12:51 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 120 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 5647 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com soc.culture.europe:614406 soc.culture.russian:505261 pl.regionalne.warszawa:510186 ZYDS!! Immer die Verfluechte Juden "Wielu ZYDs było euphoric przez ich wysoką reprezentację w nowy rząd. Pierwszy Politburo Lenin zostało dominowane przez ludzi z Żydowskie początki... Pod Lenin, ZYDs stali się włączony w wszystkich jęz aspekt czasownika Revolution, zawierając jego najbrudniejszą pracę. Śluby wbrew Communists do wykorzeń Anti Semitism, to rozciągnęło się szybko po rewolucji - częściowo z powodu ważności tak dużo Jews w Soviet administracja, jak również w urazowym, nieludzkim Sovietization jazdy, które nastąpiły. Historyk Salo Baron zauważył że ogromnie nieproporcjonalny numer ZYDs dołączył do nowego Soviet tajne policje, Cheka.... I dużo tego, który dał się nabrać afoul Cheka byłby zastrzelony przez ZYD oficerów śledczych. Collective przywództwo, które pojawiło się w dniach śmierci Lenin było zdążył przez ZYD Zinoviev, loquacious, falujący - owłosiony..." Rapoport, Louis. (1990). War Stalin Against Jews. Wolny Press / Simon & Schuster. Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedź światową najlepszy ocenioną stronę internetową dla ZYD - WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Teraz z więcej dowodem wychodzącym udowadniającym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z NAZISTAMI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz sławnego przypadku Kastner - ludzie niczego dziwnego dookoła świata naprawdę nie lubią Christkiller ZHIDS!! Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawierają: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press, Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com White Nationalist Library Yggdrasil - http://www.ddc.net/ygg Amerykański Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Kampania dla Radical Truth w History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Albo, odwiedź stronę internetową dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA : http://www.natall.com Oni mają dużo informacji, jak również książki i zapisy. Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do Steve Horn < kcom@breakthru.com >, Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo KenMcVay@vex.net Czuć się swobodnie , by zaprenumerować nas do maillists dla płci, homoseksualiści i podobne. On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:55:17 -0600, FrankArthur wrote: >"Many Jews were euphoric over their high representation in the >new government. Lenin's first Politburo was dominated by men of >Jewish origins... >Under Lenin, Jews became involved in all aspects of the Revolution, >including its dirtiest work. Despite the Communists' vows to >eradicate Anti-Semitism, it spread rapidly after the revolution - >partly because of the prominence of so many Jews in the Soviet >administration, as well as in the traumatic, inhuman Sovietization >drives that followed. Historian Salo Baron has noted that an immensely >disproportionate number of Jews joined the new Soviet >secret police, the Cheka.... And many of those who fell afoul of the >Cheka would be shot by Jewish investigators. >The Collective leadership that emerged in Lenin's dying days was >headed by the Jew Zinoviev, a loquacious, curly-haired..." >Rapoport, Louis. (1990). Stalin's War Against The Jews. Free Press/Simon & >Schuster. For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 or to KenMcVay@nizkor.org. Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From Art@Arthurian.com Wed Jun 11 18:45:34 EDT 2008 Article: 614484 of soc.culture.europe Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng2.kpn.DE!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: FrankArthur Newsgroups: alt.homosexual,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.ukrainian Subject: Guess Who Runs the Radical Fags Movement? ZYDS! Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:23:20 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 150 Message-ID: <86fq44tp8kpkvetim8ja9hqj3o9qdeunqe@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 6641 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.homosexual:343212 soc.culture.europe:614484 soc.culture.ukrainian:116374 Guess Who Runs the Radical Fags Movement? Filthy ZYDS/jews! On 25 May 2007 10:50:39 -0700, in can.politics Sentry wrote: Yep, the ZYDS have been behind the fag agenda since its beginning. The fact is, ZYDS/Jews have been behind every subversive movement we've seen in the United States and Europe since the late 19th Century. They even have fag rabbis, and many documented cases of rabbis molesting children !! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thursday, May 24, 2007 The Radical Homosexual Movement Is Run By Jews/ZYDS Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all, that the radical homosexual movement in the United States is a Jewish movement. Jews created it and run it from top to bottom. They are pushing the perversion and degeneracy that is spreading disease, sin and sickness through America like a wildfire. -The West Larry Kramer -- co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis Alan Klein -- co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer Nation, National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co- founded the successful multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM Arnie Kantrowitz -- co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Jonathan D. Katz -- founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the largest queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer political activist, was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San Francisco branch]. Harvey Fierstein -- film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay activist. Moisés Kaufman -- playwright and film director [The Laramie Project]. Israel Fishman -- founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now known as the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of the American Library Association], the world's first gay professional organization. Bella Abzug and Edward Koch -- both Jewish -- the first members of the U.S. House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning discrimination based on sexual orientation [1974]. Winnie Stachelberg -- political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC] Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans. Tony Kushner -- gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright [for Angels in America, 1992]. Len Hirsch -- president of the GLBT federal government employees group, GLOBE. Meg Moritz, Ph.D. -- a Director and member of the Executive Committee of GLAAD. Barbara Raab -- an NBC-TV producer; a "Jewish lesbian feminist journalist, writer." Charles Kaiser [?] -- author & founding member of National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA]. David Goodstein -- owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate [1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby. Judy Wieder -- Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine. Alison Bechdel [?] -- cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly comic strip "Dykes to Watch Out For." Kevin Koffler -- Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine. Garrett Glaser -- National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA] national board member. Ronald Gold -- reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn the American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an illness. Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany; founded one of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific Humanitarian Committee; coined the term "transvestism"; fled Nazi Germany. Fred Hochberg -- deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business Administration; co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC]. Michael Berman -- member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors. Mitchell Gold -- HRC Board Marty Lieberman -- HRC BoardAndy Linsky -- HRC BoardDana Perlman -- HRC BoardAbby Rubenfeld -- HRC Board Andrew Tobias -- HRC Board Lara Schwartz -- Senior Counsel, HRC Heather Wellman -- HRC Field Coordinator Dan Furmansky -- HRC Senior Field Organizer, West Sally Green -- HRC Associate Field Director This is only a small part of the list, read the entire list at News >from the West http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/2007/05/radical-homosexual-movement-is-run-by.html For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , sometimes alais KenMcVay And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights: FRANK H ARTHUR 378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE ATLANTA, GA 30315 (770) 739-6508 or to Steve Horn , or to KenMcVay@nizkor.org. 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